Tim Smith Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 This guy has preciptated tightening laws against keeping wild animals in Ohio. For a time keeping wild fish was "illegal" (and widely done anyway) in Illinois. Aquarists are shipping exotic animals to each other IN THE MAIL all over the world. Where do these lines get drawn? Being a baby-killing communist, I naturally want more laws (of any type...doesn't matter what, just sign it and figure it out later) as well as the enforcement officers of united nations checking in on us in our churches, families, and bedrooms and putting microchips in our brains. But I'm not sure how this law gets enforced. Raccoons? Bass? Fledglings that fall out of nests? What should be controlled? What's practical?
Gavin Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 No need for laws. I'm thinking that we should keep better tabs on our crazy folks (Y'all know some) and let the rest be.
Feathers and Fins Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I have dealt with Wild Animals most my life, from hunting toactually owing and selling them. I was licensed in Florida for VenomousReptiles as well as other “class permit required” wildlife. With propertraining and a permitting system in place most can be kept safely or as safe aspossible dealing with wildlife. That said there are animals that never belong in the homesof the vast majority of the population! I have kept Mambas, Cobras, Rattlersetc as well as large Monitor Lizards and even a pair of Wolves. Never has aaccident or problem but I was properly trained, My facility was inspected andall safety precautions were in place. So it can be done, but the amount ofdevotion and education needed most people will not do. I know there were many people and probably still are in theUS keeping Mambas as “pets” IMO there is only a handful of people in the worldthat should have them in a private collection as an example. Same with LargeLizards and Wolves etc. I firmly believe in the permitting system Florida has inplace it makes since and weeds out people who shouldn’t have these animals.Accidents will happen just like it does when people have domestic animals. The differenceis when it’s an exotic it makes National News and the type of animal freakspeople out because of a natural fear of the wildlife. Say my cat bit me andpeople snicker, say my snake bit me and they freak out and say you shouldn’t haveit. There is no difference both are animals both can and will bite. The WORD isthe scare factor that and the fear of what is deemed “wildlife”. I always had to laugh when I would get a call to do a snakeremoval or gator removal from someone’s house, No media no big county scare nofan fair at all! But if I had a call to remove a Boa Constrictor I had the newsthere and the entire neighborhood. Trust me on this removing a Boa that wasobviously an escaped pet was far easier than removing a rambunctious 3 footalligator youngster who thought it was his job to show you how bad he was and how sneaky he could be at eluding captureattempts. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
timsfly Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 What will I do with my Tiger I take with me to Crane, I use him just to kill snakes and meth heads when they get to close, He's such a good boy quiter than a .45 Tim Homesley 23387 st. hwy 112 Cassville, Mo 65625 Roaring River State park Tim's Fly Shop www.missouritrout.com/timsflyshop
junkman Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 actually I have been busy this week building a wolf pin for a guy. The way it looks to me, the conservation Dept. already has regulations in place to weed out some riffraff. I know he had to take a test to see if he was even eligible to have one. And this pen I'm building is maximum security. going to have a couple thousand in the pin but actually the pup only cost $100. it sounds like to me that one of the problems was that Ohio was some pretty lax laws. maybe it would be best to have a universal set of standards in place across the states.
snagged in outlet 3 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I don't think it matters how it's controlled or licensed if the owner leaves the cage open. Pete
3wt Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I don't think it matters how it's controlled or licensed if the owner leaves the cage open. Pete That could be said about anything. While true, I don't know about it as logic for banning any given activity (if that's what you're getting at.) I could say it about guns, cars, pharmaceuticals, power tools - all great when used properly, but if a crazy guy wants to misuse them to harm somebody, he's probably gonna do it.
Al Agnew Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Short of making everybody take an extensive test before getting a permit, and regular inspection of pens, etc. I don't see any good way of controlling this. I see no need for just any Tom, Dick, or Harry to own large, potentially dangerous wild animals. It is seldom good for the animal, for one thing. So I'd be all for a nationwide law forcing prospective owners to take that extensive test and get those regular inspections. But, of course, that would mean a lot of cost and bureaucracy. Having spent time around wolves and wolf-dog hybrids, I'm pretty sure that, unless you've been trained in the psychological differences between them and dogs, you definitely shouldn't own one. Wolves simply have a different mindset and habits from dogs, and wolf/dog hybrids are very often neurotic and unpredictable. As for the big cats, or bears, I don't see how anybody could think they would make good "pets". Too many people want one just to say they own one and act tough and cool. And, of course, pythons and boa constrictors that people decided to get rid of by releasing them into the wild are causing all sorts of problems in Florida for the native wildlife.
FishinCricket Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 Rottweilers are just as deadly guys... cricket.c21.com
FishinCricket Posted October 22, 2011 Posted October 22, 2011 What will I do with my Tiger I take with me to Crane, I use him just to kill snakes and meth heads when they get to close, He's such a good boy quieter than a .45 You've obviously never heard a Tiger attack and subsequently eat it's meal... lol cricket.c21.com
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