Last Known Stocking

[Phil Lilley]

Doesn't make any sense. Jerry Dean makes the statement-

Crane Creek was first stocked in 1890 with natural reproduction observed in 1893 (Turner 1980) and hasn't been restocked since the 1960's.

But Spence Turner states in his email that he knows of no stockings other than the one's late in the 1800's and early in the 1900's. The reference in his sentence comes before his added statement "and hasn't been restocked since the 1960's." I don't think, he could not have gotten this statement from the source he provides - Turner, Spencer E. (1980). Letter to Dr Graham Gall. October 5, 1980.

Not saying it didn't happen... but I wouldn't put much credence in this paper proving it. It is a good read though. Thanks for posting it.

[ness]

I wonder if Spence could shed any light on that discrepancy. I'm just curious because Dean seems to have leaned pretty heavily on Spence as a source. I wonder if he was referring to the other hatchery that someone mentioned was on a tributary of Crane.

Anyhoo -- I see now that Chief posted that story in an earlier post. Just swiped all Andrew's documents to add to my collection of stuff. Thanks for that.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I found where I read that there were stockings up into the 1960's:

Right here

I guess that is the only place I read it myself. I could have swore that I read it in another spot or two though.

Not saying it didn't happen... but I wouldn't put much credence in this paper proving it. It is a good read though. Thanks for posting it.

Then should we put any credence is Spence's work on this because he erroneously reported that Crane was stocked from a railcar in 1880?

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/may/16/the-rainbow-connection/

Now personally I would not go that far. I guess the next move would be to find Jerry and ask for his reference. Anyone here know him????

[drew03cmc]

Spencer is one of the foremost authorities on this, however, some details are very sketchy. I would like to see the information on the origin of the eggs used to stock Crane in the beginning, but you know that will not happen. I also believe these are hybrids, which doesn't mean they had to evolve into wild fish, rather, they found suitable accomodations in Crane Creek and took up residence making the creek their own. I will continue chasing them regardless.

[Buzz]

This concerning the railroad stocking Crane Creek. Chief, was there a railrod track that ran anywhere near Crane or is the one that runs through town the only one in the vicinity? After looking at the picture in this article I'm wondering if the men are loading the milk cans full of trout onto or off of the railcar? http://mdc4.mdc.mo.gov/Documents/11939.pdf

If there was a track somewhat close to Crane it seems likely they may have been able to carry them overland for at least a reasonable distance and dumped fish in Crane Creek and others. I never read that they dumped the fish right off of the railroad bridges, but I guess I always assumed that was the way it was done.

[laker67]

. I never read that they dumped the fish right off of the railroad bridges, but I guess I always assumed that was the way it was done.

Hi Buzz. I once witnessed bssp dumping fish off the hwy 64 bridge during a scheduled river stocking. Myself and coach Scott were fishing below the bridge and caught several fish on consecutive casts as soon as they hit the river. The fall didn't hurt them one bit, they hit the water dumb and hungry.

[Buzz]

Hi Buzz. I once witnessed bssp dumping fish off the hwy 64 bridge during a scheduled river stocking. Myself and coach Scott were fishing below the bridge and caught several fish on consecutive casts as soon as they hit the river. The fall didn't hurt them one bit, they hit the water dumb and hungry.

That sure would be a sight to see. Raining rainbows.

[Chief Grey Bear]

This concerning the railroad stocking Crane Creek. Chief, was there a railrod track that ran anywhere near Crane or is the one that runs through town the only one in the vicinity? After looking at the picture in this article I'm wondering if the men are loading the milk cans full of trout onto or off of the railcar? http://mdc4.mdc.mo.gov/Documents/11939.pdf

If there was a track somewhat close to Crane it seems likely they may have been able to carry them overland for at least a reasonable distance and dumped fish in Crane Creek and others. I never read that they dumped the fish right off of the railroad bridges, but I guess I always assumed that was the way it was done.

There was nothing within a days ride.

That is just a stock photo. It may not even be trout in those cans.

[Buzz]

Ok, thanks. I knew you would know.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I wonder if Spence could shed any light on that discrepancy. I'm just curious because Dean seems to have leaned pretty heavily on Spence as a source. I wonder if he was referring to the other hatchery that someone mentioned was on a tributary of Crane.

Anyhoo -- I see now that Chief posted that story in an earlier post. Just swiped all Andrew's documents to add to my collection of stuff. Thanks for that.

You can add this one too.

I don't think I have posted it yet anyway.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/may/16/the-rainbow-connection/