Smalliebigs Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 " I'm not that worried about cougars in Missouri, just leary, when you see first hand accounts up close of a kid geting wacked like that it does make me give them a lot of respect" ?????? just have some wierd memories of that specific attack. Hot dogs suck unless they were blessed and inspected by a rabbi
Justin Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 They deserve plenty of respect, and no one will blame anyone for shooting one if they were in fact in danger. I just wonder where all this fear comes from when they kill less than 1 person per year. I guess it is the thought of how you are stalked and possibly eaten. Just for reference Bee Stings kill 53/yr, Pet dogs 31, Spiders 6, Rattlesnake 5.5, Horses 20. Maybe that senator will have a bill that allows us to kill pet dogs and horses on site since they are much more dangerous than mountain lions "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
drew03cmc Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 They deserve plenty of respect, and no one will blame anyone for shooting one if they were in fact in danger. I just wonder where all this fear comes from when they kill less than 1 person per year. I guess it is the thought of how you are stalked and possibly eaten. Just for reference Bee Stings kill 53/yr, Pet dogs 31, Spiders 6, Rattlesnake 5.5, Horses 20. Maybe that senator will have a bill that allows us to kill pet dogs and horses on site since they are much more dangerous than mountain lions That would be a fun bill to see how it progressed through the legislature in Missouri. Andy
Smalliebigs Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 not sure how you can compare the amount of people dying from Bee stings who were more than likely alergic to that venom vs the amount of people venturing into the deep woods and getting killed by cougars......not the same, not even close. I would venture to say a lot more people are exposing themselves to pet dogs every year than people venturing into an area that potentialy has Cougars. It's impossible to throw out a true stat on how likey you are to die from beeing attacked by one thing or another....unless you are saying the general anount of fear in regards to a specific creature is created by the amount of people beeing killed by that creature a year. it will never be apples to apples when you throw out stats
Justin Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I'm just pointing out how pointless it is (in my humble opinion) to worry about being attacked by a cougar, unless you are going to spend 53 times the amount of time worrying about being killed by a bee, 77 times more time worrying about your kid choking on a hog dog, etc. Not worth my time to worry about, and if I wasn't procrastinating so much about going and cleaning a cabin I probably wouldn't bother discussing this matter, but I REALLY don't want to go do it! Chances are since I've been arguing this point of view that I will get attacked by a cougar going down to clean the riverhouse, if so let the record show I was dead wrong (now I'm getting nervous, thanks alot)! "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
Al Agnew Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 About that "fear of man" thing... I highly doubt that mountain lions or any other animal lose their "fear of man". What, some cougar wakes up one morning and suddenly realizes, "Hey, the people around here aren't trying to kill me so I think I'll go eat one." What probably is happening is a combination of cougars being protected in areas where the human population density has risen dramatically, and possibly a bit of evolution. Maybe in the past mountain lions were shot on sight so much that the only survivors were those who had learned or were genetically predisposed to avoid humans at all cost, and those survivors passed on those traits to their offspring. Mainly, though, it's probably a function of a good cougar population in areas where there are lots and lots of people. You hardly ever hear of some guy getting eaten out in the wilderness...it's usually in populated areas. So what does that mean for Ozarkers? Well, maybe in a way that depends upon where the cougars are coming from. If they are coming from the wild somewhere else, chances are they are still likely to avoid humans at all costs. But if some of them are "tame" cats that were released by doofuses who thought they'd make good pets until they got to be 150 pound furniture shredders, then there might be a bit of cause for worry. But given how few of them have been seen even with the increase in sightings, I think we're still a long way from having to worry much about them. I've spent a lot of time in good lion country, and have only seen two in the wild. I never worry about them...I DO worry a lot about grizzlies, though.
skeeter Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Tim , "Superior knowledge card " ? Hardly....all I was stating was my previous experience with one when a kid and reported incidents in the Western U.S. If that's your definition of "superior knowledge" so be it. F & F, Couldn't agree more. You've obviously spent time in their territory too and know you have to be aware. Just trying to comment on what changes are going to occur soon in the Ozarks as the population of cats seems to be on the increase. Trout Commander.....knew there would be a "keyboard jockey" out there...I was right. Smalliebigs, Noticed your posting about "running" being a factor in the documented attack on the youngster in CO. That dovetails with reports of the activity of a lot of folks that seems to have triggered the aggressive lion behavior. Yep, hot dogs suck . Got your drift. Hope things are going well for you guys.
Smalliebigs Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I just saw a cougar in our parking lot at our office that I would like be attacked by.....she's a beautiful creature
Justin Spencer Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I just saw a cougar in our parking lot at our office that I would like be attacked by.....she's a beautiful creature No picture? "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
Smalliebigs Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 na but, she looked like she could tear a man to pieces
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