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Hey Laney, welcome to the circus :) and thanks for the vote of confidence from CWF, Phil, and Bugman.

There's no adjusting the VRO pump, over-oiling is a typical and common VRO system failure, thats what they do when the diaphrams in the pump go south. If it is an older J/E (pre VRO2) then alcohol has deteriorated the diaphrams in the pump and ut needs to be upgraded to the new VRO2 kit with alcohol resistant components.

If by chance it is the newer VRO2 then you have a pulse limiter failure that has allowed a lean sneeze backfire to rupture a diaphram. Either way the solution is to replace the VRO pump, pulse limiter, and associated hoses and circuitry.

Dont fall for the VRO elimination/ mixed fuel suggestion that I'm sure you'll hear eventually (if you haven't already) because even if the oil injection function of the pump is disabled the VRO pump still has to supply fuel.... which it won't do for much longer since the diaphrams are most likely gradually disolving. I'm afraid its time to spend a little coin on her :)

Hope this helps, Wrench

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I take it all back, this advice is all complete BS.. ;)

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Hey Laney, welcome to the circus :) and thanks for the vote of confidence from CWF, Phil, and Bugman.

There's no adjusting the VRO pump, over-oiling is a typical and common VRO system failure, thats what they do when the diaphrams in the pump go south. If it is an older J/E (pre VRO2) then alcohol has deteriorated the diaphrams in the pump and ut needs to be upgraded to the new VRO2 kit with alcohol resistant components.

If by chance it is the newer VRO2 then you have a pulse limiter failure that has allowed a lean sneeze backfire to rupture a diaphram. Either way the solution is to replace the VRO pump, pulse limiter, and associated hoses and circuitry.

Dont fall for the VRO elimination/ mixed fuel suggestion that I'm sure you'll hear eventually (if you haven't already) because even if the oil injection function of the pump is disabled the VRO pump still has to supply fuel.... which it won't do for much longer since the diaphrams are most likely gradually disolving. I'm afraid its time to spend a little coin on her :)

Hope this helps, Wrench

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I thought maybe it was the Fetzer valve. Hmmm.

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Did I overdo the techy bullshit? LOL Was just trying to eliminate the questions that I knew would follow if I had just said ... "Swap the pump, it's 600 bucks". :)

And the "well my neighbor who's uncle was a marine mechanic said I could just......."

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Did I overdo the techy bullshit? LOL Was just trying to eliminate the questions that I knew would follow if I had just said ... "Swap the pump, it's 600 bucks". :)

And the "well my neighbor who's uncle was a marine mechanic said I could just......."

Always nice to have an expert around, I say...

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Welcome aboard!

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Called up to Son Sac Marine and talked to Bill, taking the motor to him to check out on Friday. He said it could be any number of things, including needing a new pump, so I will find out. None of this is cheap though. He did say he could check the pump out to see if it is working properly and if that is so, then find the problem in something else. I took y''alls advice about going up there, someone said they are good mechanics. I really hope so!

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Took the boat up to Son Sac Marine and had the oil pump checked out and found it was good, no problems at all with it, held pressure like it should according to Bill. So he indicated it was a fuel problem somewhere in the system. He was going to put his fuel system on it and see if he could find the problem. It seems to be flooding when you shut it down, anyway, I have confidence he will find the problem. Just glad it wasn't the $460 oil pump needing replacing.

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"it held pressure" ? Hu?

If you mean it "had sufficient fuel pressure output" ...then yes, it will. But the diaphram that seperates the fuel from the oil is leaking through (oil is getting to the fuel inside the pump prior to metering) so the end result is a heavy oil mixture being delivered to the carb bowls at all throttle setting, the slower fuel moves through the pump the richer the oil mixture will become.

No other situation exists on that motor that will cause it to over-oil (which is what it was doing IF you were surrounded by a cloud of blue smoke at everything under mid-range throttle settings, like you said).

I'm not trying to bum you out, and I mean no disrespect to your tech, but before your motor is "right" you WILL BE buying a VRO kit. I guarantee it.

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Toldja Wrench didn't know nuttin....

(just kidding of course, I don't know squat about your issue or about outboards, but I know that Wrench WOULD NOT "guarantee" anything unless he was POSITIVE... And I've yet to see the man be wrong about an outboard)

Best of luck.

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