Guest Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Old inside joke with a buddy of mine. He imitates an old codger in his bass club..... "wana catch fish?......take the G** D*** BBs outa the wigglewart" Never have tried it, always thought the rattle was a good thing. Anybody ever taken the G** D*** BBs outa the wiggle wart? Never thought about removing the rattle. I guess you could throw a Bagley Killer B2, its balsa and doesnt rattle.
97procraft Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Guys, If you are wanting to paint some warts, take a look at my new website www.blankbaits.com . I have been painting baits for several years and I had trouble finding the baits that I liked to use from the other unpainted sites, so I went looking for them myself. The wart was the bait that I had the hardest time finding. I have been using them for over a year now and they work great. If you have any questions let me know. By the way, they are called Mid Cranks on the site. I tried to make this post not sound like a shamless plug for the site, I don't think it worked. Jeff
exiledguide Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 And I absolutely detest orange bellies on crankbaits. . AL, I've seen you post that before about orange on crankbaits and I'm just the opposite I really have a hard time with a crawfish pattern without an orange belly. I also don't rate the Wart very highly, I even checked and made sure that the warts I own were the old ones fished them first on a number of trips and they didn't produce as well as my Double Deep Wee Rs are the Norman deep little N's. I think it has got to be the actual mechanics of the way I fish a crank bait. I know that the Wiggle Warts are great baits I just don't catch many fish with them. As a matter of fact I'm going to give them all to my fishing buddy he fishes Table Rock a lot more than I do. I also know that probably the Orange belly produces better for me because I expect it will and I guess that is why there are so many choices when it comes to crankbaits. Also who were the people who decided to change the way Wiggle Warts were made and who decided to stop producing the Double Deep Wee R ?
exiledguide Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Here's a crawfish from the upper reaches of the East Fork of the Black River. Don't crawfish change colors during the seasons? By the way great photos.
Guest Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 And I absolutely detest orange bellies on crankbaits. . AL, I've seen you post that before about orange on crankbaits and I'm just the opposite I really have a hard time with a crawfish pattern without an orange belly. I also don't rate the Wart very highly, I even checked and made sure that the warts I own were the old ones fished them first on a number of trips and they didn't produce as well as my Double Deep Wee Rs are the Norman deep little N's. I think it has got to be the actual mechanics of the way I fish a crank bait. I know that the Wiggle Warts are great baits I just don't catch many fish with them. As a matter of fact I'm going to give them all to my fishing buddy he fishes Table Rock a lot more than I do. I also know that probably the Orange belly produces better for me because I expect it will and I guess that is why there are so many choices when it comes to crankbaits. Also who were the people who decided to change the way Wiggle Warts were made and who decided to stop producing the Double Deep Wee R ? I believe Storm was bought by Rapala a few years back. They didnt like the way it crawled up the sides of the text tank so they remodeled it. Thus killing its hunting ability, which is the reason that its so good. They've since corrected that mistake and re-introduced the original wiggle wart. As for the Double Deep Wee R, thats a marketing decision based on regional sales. Im guessing on that. Really good baits catch lots of big bass for select anglers but lag in overall sales to the general public. The demise of a great lure, essentially. I would think a bandit 300 series would run like the Double Deep Wee R, maybe.
Gavin Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Ozark streams contain two primary species of craw...The Golden & the Spothanded Craw...the spot hands run allot bigger than the goldens, and they tend to hang deeper and on bigger rocks... They have an olive brown carpace & tan belly.. If your fishing Table Rock, I beleive the Long pincered crawfish is very common..and there are some very localized populations in other places. You can check them out here. Note that most of the spothanded craws that I see appear to be darker with more subtle rusty red colored banding than the one pictured. http://mdc.mo.gov/di...rpions/crayfish .
exiledguide Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I believe Storm was bought by Rapala a few years back. They didnt like the way it crawled up the sides of the text tank so they remodeled it. Thus killing its hunting ability, which is the reason that its so good. They've since corrected that mistake and re-introduced the original wiggle wart. As for the Double Deep Wee R, thats a marketing decision based on regional sales. Im guessing on that. Really good baits catch lots of big bass for select anglers but lag in overall sales to the general public. The demise of a great lure, essentially. I would think a bandit 300 series would run like the Double Deep Wee R, maybe. I still have a number of double deeps left in the original crawfish pattern. That lure and the Humpy were featured in a bassmaster (I belive) magazine a generation ago, a couple in Florida (?) caught a double limit of largemouth that weighed more than any limit recorded up until that time. The couple were shown holding the fish on stringers I doubt that that would be published today. I remember when Johnson bought bass buster from Virgil Ward they dropped the Brown Beatle from there line and added an Orange Green Yellow Crawfish and when I question a Rep from the company why they dropped the color that looked more like an upper Piney River crawfish than enen a crawfish he told me that they made lures to catch fisherman not fish. Thats when I started making my own plastics. Bandit is a well made bait if I ever run out of the double deeps I probably will be throwing them.
Guest Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Ozark streams contain two primary species of craw...The Golden & the Spothanded Craw...the spot hands run allot bigger than the goldens, and they tend to hang deeper and on bigger rocks... They have an olive brown carpace & tan belly.. If your fishing Table Rock, I beleive the Long pincered crawfish is very common..and there are some very localized populations in other places. You can check them out here. Note that most of the spothanded craws that I see appear to be darker with more subtle rusty red colored banding.. http://mdc.mo.gov/di...rpions/crayfish . I was wrong the creek behind my house is full of the "Neosho Midget Crayfish" I had it confused with the "golden crayfish" Thanks for the link, interesting read. Those orange craws that I painted are geared primarilly for lake smallmouth, not creeks. Although Im sure they will catch fish anywhere.
DChance Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Back to original question about hooks. I use a #4 and a #6 the smaller hook on front helps with hangups and I don't have any problems missing fish. I like ultra points and the new Kvd trebles too. Another thing I do is add one or two suspend dots just behind the bill on the belly to slow down the speed it rises when u pause it. Love warting in the spring.
Members Tommy Neil Posted February 19, 2012 Members Posted February 19, 2012 When I bass fished on Tablerock in the late winter and early spring I had a wiggle wart on one rod and a double deep we R on another rod. Between the two crankbaits I could find a pattern to catch a limit. Some times I would follow one or the other to the same spot and catch bass on the second case.
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