Tim Smith Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 We scrub our coal emission to reduce pollution. But that doesn't reduce CO2. We control our vehicle emissions. ...and that doesn't reduce CO2. We have a pretty good handle on what we put into the air and we pay well for it. That is why most of our jobs have went to China where all of the pollution is coming from. I doubt if there is any other country with strict regulations and a all encompassing agency like the EPA to regulate it. The EPA everyone wants dismantle and half the house and senate are trying to defund because they want to enforce CO2 regulations? We shudder when they mention a new Nuclear Power plant. We block the damming of streams to produce hydro electric power. We may end up with more of these before it's all over, but in some places, the loss of snow pack is going to make the hydro option much weaker. Also, I think as a cost of building any further nuclear plants, we should lock up the engineers who insisted for decades that the Fukishima style reactors were completely safe and there was no possible way they could ever melt down. Lowering taxes on efficient products does not really help, the efficient products are more expensive than normal ones. In this economy that is struggling to make ends meet, who can afford the better stuff, even with a meager tax break. Then you have to go long form on taxes and hire someone to do them. How about making them more competitive pricewise instead. This one baffles me. Half the country is insisting the reason the Chinese got ahead was because of the tax burden on production here in the US. Just before the wind tax break was winding down, just about every flatbed in Colorado that could carry wind turbine blades and towers was loaded to the max. Apparently SOME ONE thought that tax break was helping. Our forestry management is 110 percent better than it was at the turn of the century. Trees absorb carbon, plant more trees in your yards. Your yard? You'll need more than that. I'll spot you 24,000 and let's race.
jdmidwest Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 I still don't see any viable solutions presented here to solve it. How do you propose to fix it? "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Members dbaltz Posted July 23, 2012 Members Posted July 23, 2012 In all the sc-fi movies post apoctaliptic WWIII seams to take care of industry and population. I am joking but there is a point here that it would have to take a huge shift in the way they not only live but what they strive to live for. The get more for my offspring than what I had has spread beyond the borders of the US and compounded with global population rise.
Quillback Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 BTW, for the record, China is the #1 producer of carbon emissions, in fact their increased emission rate has outpaced the reductions made by western nations (US included). China's emission rate is increasing at a rate of 13% per year. At this rate, in another 5 or 6 years, the extra emissions created will have the effect of dropping another United States onto the globe. 6 years from now we could completely cut our carbon emissions to zero, but if China does not slow down it would have no effect on total global carbon emissions. Not that we should not do our part, but if China continues down the path they're on, we won't make much of a difference.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted July 23, 2012 Root Admin Posted July 23, 2012 Are we ready to get back to fishing?
Mitch f Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Are we ready to get back to fishing? Thank you Phil "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted July 23, 2012 Root Admin Posted July 23, 2012 Not belittling anyone's position or what's been said... just saying
Justin Spencer Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 IT's too hot to fish due to this global warming. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted July 23, 2012 Root Admin Posted July 23, 2012 good one. I'm going to play golf!
Tim Smith Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Not belittling anyone's position or what's been said... just saying Caught this one a couple of weeks ago on the Yampa. Can't go there now because it's under a voluntary closure due to the drought. Maybe I can find some gar instead.
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