laker67 Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 After reading about Phil,s big catch, and recalling the story about the 17.5 lber caught just a few months ago. I am thinking that taney is on the verge of producing the next 18 lb rainbow. Last fall I witnessed the most large rainbows caught in several years. It reminded me of the 1988 season when 10 to 14 lbers were caught on a daily basis. Last fall, at least 6 fish were caught ranging from 12.5 to 15.5 . These six fish are the ones caught by Bman, Centerpunch, Brandon, Elke, and myself. And these are only the fish that I am aware of, I am sure others were caught from the main lake. When you look at this overall pattern, I am guessing that this might be the year for the state record to " rightfully" come to lake taneycomo. I am going out on the limb and saying that by new license time next year, taney will produce a record rainbow. It may come in the way of an unofficial record from phil or some of the c and r people on this board, but I thinki it will happen.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted July 31, 2012 Root Admin Posted July 31, 2012 Well put. I believe there's several rainbows swimming in the lake that would break the record.
denjac Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I believe the state record of 18.1 caught at rr is a little bit skeewed anyway. The hatchery turns loose an old brood sow and someone catches it in a small pool of water. Its still a record but just seems tarnished. Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
laker67 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Posted July 31, 2012 I believe the state record of 18.1 caught at rr is a little bit skeewed anyway. The hatchery turns loose an old brood sow and someone catches it in a small pool of water. Its still a record but just seems tarnished. The trout parks have always done this starting with bssp back in 74. Whether intentional or not it happens and they know darn well that this fish will be caught, snagged, or found dead and turned in for a record. That is why I say that it should "rightfully" come from taney. No brood stock that large are released and they have to survive and grow up in the lake to reach record size. The fish that Phil and the young man before him caught, are genuine trophy's, as were the other fish caught last fall by the OAF guys. I mean not to offend any park fishermen because I am a park fisherman as well, and I like having big fish in the creek. And I certainly do not want to offend the young man with the record if the fish was taken in fair chase. I have no reason to believe otherwise.
Mr. Ed Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 I have to agree with the brood stock release... shouldn't be a record in my book. We had two "state record" trout caught out of the same stocked lake here in KS this year. If I recall they were caught the same week as well. Fish are stocked and will not make it through the summer and someone catches them and its a "record"... kind of silly if you ask me.
laker67 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Posted July 31, 2012 I have to agree with the brood stock release... shouldn't be a record in my book. We had two "state record" trout caught out of the same stocked lake here in KS this year. If I recall they were caught the same week as well. Fish are stocked and will not make it through the summer and someone catches them and its a "record"... kind of silly if you ask me. Hi Mr Ed, what you have in kansas is similiar to our urban trout program where fish will not survive from season to season. I kind of see what you are saying, it would be like them turning out a record fish for the urban program. That would ruffle some neck hackles.
BredMan Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 The trout parks have always done this starting with bssp back in 74. Whether intentional or not it happens and they know darn well that this fish will be caught, snagged, or found dead and turned in for a record. That is why I say that it should "rightfully" come from taney. No brood stock that large are released and they have to survive and grow up in the lake to reach record size. The fish that Phil and the young man before him caught, are genuine trophy's, as were the other fish caught last fall by the OAF guys. I mean not to offend any park fishermen because I am a park fisherman as well, and I like having big fish in the creek. And I certainly do not want to offend the young man with the record if the fish was taken in fair chase. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Do you know for a fact that brood stock are not released in Taney? I would agree with you 100% if I know this to be true. Which raises a question on state record fish in general. Can a state record fish be acknowledged if caught from a stocked private body of water or stocked pay body of water? Trout parks in my opinion fall into that category. Just asking, not arguing.......
laker67 Posted July 31, 2012 Author Posted July 31, 2012 Do you know for a fact that brood stock are not released in Taney? I would agree with you 100% if I know this to be true. Which raises a question on state record fish in general. Can a state record fish be acknowledged if caught from a stocked private body of water or stocked pay body of water? Trout parks in my opinion fall into that category. Just asking, not arguing....... Normal broodstock are released each season in taney and the trout parks, it is the hand raised to record size that are released in the trout parks. And by normal size, I am referring to the 6 to 8 lbers. They would have to survive a few seasons past that to reach 18 or 20 lb. The state record crappie came from a private pond or lake, so I am told, but I do not know that first hand. State record trout are indeed recognized from the trout parks. I am not sure what they would do if one came from Rockbridge.
Brian K. Shaffer Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 The largest of all stocker Taney fish die in the hatchery Welcome Center aquarium. Or in the small raceways they get into trying to get back into the hatchery. They get back into the hatchery thru the pipes.. no doubt.. and get lazy and very fat. On my last day of work there - a female brown died, she was 18+lbs. I asked for the fish, but they said no. It was the single fattest shortest fish I have ever seen. Just once I wish a trout would wink at me! ozarkflyfisher@gmail.com I'm the guy wearing the same Simms longbilled hat for 10 years now.
Addicted to Creeks Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I would love to work at a hatchery. What sort of line of schooling would one nneed to persue for that Fish always lose by being "got in and dressed." It is best to weigh them while they are in the water. The only really large one I ever caught got away with my leader when I first struck him. He weighed ten pounds. —Charles Dudley Warner
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