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Anybody with a map already knows how to find creeks. Thanks for the report cullinby, that's one of my favorite areas to fish too. And about only 5% catching fish. Last time I was on Beaver, there was a group of drunk rednecks and their kids (not drunk) fishing and keeping everything with gills. Those kids and their worms definitely put a serious whipping on the hole they were camped on. Pressure is pressure.

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Anybody with a map already knows how to find creeks. Thanks for the report cullinby, that's one of my favorite areas to fish too. And about only 5% catching fish. Last time I was on Beaver, there was a group of drunk rednecks and their kids (not drunk) fishing and keeping everything with gills. Those kids and their worms definitely put a serious whipping on the hole they were camped on. Pressure is pressure.

Everyone who floats that creek regularly see's the local bait fishermen with stringers of bass. Some how the creek is still full of fish. Its my opinion that most of the people that harvest bass out of any river or creek live in the drainage area of that creek. I've floated from 76hwy to the lake in june during the spawn the amount of fish above Rome is flat out jaw dropping. The first 15 miles or so I don't even fish just put on a snorkel and interact with the defensive fish.

My 5% calculation is just a guess at how many anglers can consistantly catch the 2-5 lb fish. Live bait is the obvious equallizer and in the spring when the fish are aggresive they are easy to catch. The better fish are not so easy to trick they are super spooky when the water is gin clear and the right cast the first time, not letting them see the boat are crucial to getting the bigger bites.

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The access definitely protects the creek. I suspect that it gets fed from BS also. I've caught some nice smallies between 160 and the lake and they couldn't have been there too long.

Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.

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Do whatever you think best, but there are lots of components to posting names of smaller, more fragile streams on the internet. I don't care whether the guys it draws from farther away know how to catch fish or not, if there are MORE anglers on a stretch of stream that I want to float, the chances are a lot better that they'll be there on the day I decide to float. There isn't much I hate more than to be fishing behind another canoe. If they don't catch the fish, they at least scare the crap out of them.

You ask what we can talk about if not the creeks we fish. Well, there is a lot of stuff to talk about without naming streams where you have good fishing.

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Do whatever you think best, but there are lots of components to posting names of smaller, more fragile streams on the internet. I don't care whether the guys it draws from farther away know how to catch fish or not, if there are MORE anglers on a stretch of stream that I want to float, the chances are a lot better that they'll be there on the day I decide to float. There isn't much I hate more than to be fishing behind another canoe. If they don't catch the fish, they at least scare the crap out of them.

You ask what we can talk about if not the creeks we fish. Well, there is a lot of stuff to talk about without naming streams where you have good fishing.

Oh come on. This is the age of the internet. Like I said and I'm sticking with it, anybody who has a map can find any creek and furthermore, almost any access.

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Oh come on. This is the age of the internet. Like I said and I'm sticking with it, anybody who has a map can find any creek and furthermore, almost any access.

Many creeks have been ruined by someone writing an article or posting on a blog about all the fish they've been catching. Beware

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Many creeks have been ruined by someone writing an article or posting on a blog about all the fish they've been catching. Beware

I would like you to share some specific examples of a stream that has been ruined by an internet post? I said this in an earlier post there is not one creek that I have fished from big sugar and shoal creeks east to the Current, north to the Gasconade that isn't full of bass. Years ago I saw a show on pbs produced by the mdc about smallmouth fishing in ozark streams the show was filmed on Bull Creek the host volunteered up that info. Its still full of fish today. I understand that you gentleman want to preserve the good fishing we have but I think you are completely overreacting.

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I would like you to share some specific examples of a stream that has been ruined by an internet post? I said this in an earlier post there is not one creek that I have fished from big sugar and shoal creeks east to the Current, north to the Gasconade that isn't full of bass. Years ago I saw a show on pbs produced by the mdc about smallmouth fishing in ozark streams the show was filmed on Bull Creek the host volunteered up that info. Its still full of fish today. I understand that you gentleman want to preserve the good fishing we have but I think you are completly overreacting.

So do I. I'm sticking with the thought that anybody with a map can find anyplace they want to get to and fish. And about the internet age comment - google and google earth make it so easy to figure out how to get to where you want to go as to make it laughable to try and keep your spots a secret. What creates pressure on a given body of water is much more where it is in relation to population centers and how easy it is to get to the accesses. And outfitters, more than anything else.

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Years ago I saw a show on pbs produced by the mdc about smallmouth fishing in ozark streams the show was filmed on Bull Creek the host volunteered up that info. Its still full of fish today. I understand that you gentleman want to preserve the good fishing we have but I think you are completly overreacting.

But why do people keep pushing MDC to change the regulations? It all boils down to the same thing, it's a tough pill to swallow. You don't want any other fishing pressure, no meat eaters, no meth heads, no giggers, no party floaters. if only we all could each have our own private creek to fish. Let's make enough regulation changes that force everyone else off the creeks.

Jeremy Dodson

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The access definitely protects the creek. I suspect that it gets fed from BS also. I've caught some nice smallies between 160 and the lake and they couldn't have been there too long.

I agree completely when BS was 30ft. high I caught whites above long creek. Just the amount of gar,big carp, flat heads and skipjack tell me that the lake constantly feeds the creek. The same can be said for all the creeks that feed the white river the execption is bull and it has fish that come up in it to they're just alot prettier than the aboved mentioned species.

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