johnboy2bfishin Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 I would have.like to have fished down between KC.and dam but figured wind would have been to.much for step sons first time didn't want to scare him off the lake completely. I.think he is hooked even just catching his big fish of only 15"k it was fun to watch him fight her. She was fat and worked him over. I am ready for the drag bite it seems i can catch them more consistantly
Bill Babler Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 Did not intend to be cross or mean spirited yesterday, but it was one of those days. Johnboy had it right for Table Rock. Most important point of his post, reguardless of the baits he was using, his boat was sitting in the correct ammount of water. He was fishing a divirse depth by casting into I'm guessing 10 to 12 ft. and then bringing that bait thru the entire water range to plus 30 ft. That is a very correct pattern to locate and catch fish in the Sprng on the Rock He was dragging but the grub, stickbait or fluke will preform that same fuction in the same way, They are a bit more versitile if you are a caster. The Spil-shot is way better if you have a youngster you are casting for and handing the rod. He or she just has to hold it. Really no hook set most of the time necessary, just put prussure on the bait. With the other 3 baits I mentioned they are attracting fish anywhere in that water column, from the bottom to the surface with the water clarity we have right now. I am fishing a bit deeper really doing the same thing that Johnboy is. The complete key is the boat. The boat catches the fish the fishermen do not. If your boat is out of position, you will struggle. If you maintain the correct attitude of the boat and it is positioned correctly your chances increase about 99%. Eric Olliverson one of our lake guides here is having a fantastic Spring fishing the grub. Talked to him several times yesterday. They had an 8.8 swimming the grub on the same types of locations I'm catching them on the floater or the sticker. He reported multiple keepers. He had his boat in 35 to 50 most of the afternoon. He is making long cast and letting the grub sink and then slowly winding it back so when it reaches the boat, you are reeling it almost straight up. We have went over this time after tme. Most if not all of the big females are not on the bank, they are suspended away from the bank in association with deep water in or near the spawning pockets. There is plenty of things for them to eat out there cause most of these locations are also full of shad. It is also but a tail wag to the bottom for some yummy crayfish cocktails. Move those boats out and share the fish we are catching, we invite you aboard. Good Luck http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
Members Nolan_Whaley Posted April 15, 2013 Members Posted April 15, 2013 Wow, talk about words of wisdom. Thanks again Bill for all your informative posts. Took my uncle out Sat fishing and we fished this pattern. I had to keep boat in 30' and fishing cedars off ledge/chunk rock secondary points. When i got in shallow, nothing. We threw 3/16 stand up jigs with trick worms and caught lots of fat 14". I had one nice fish on that, but battery out on scale, so i won't lie about weights.... Wish i had thought to swim a grub. duh. What are some good suggestions for fishing those deep cedars? pitch past them or parallel and fish the deep side? between the trees? I think i was just getting lucky when i didn't get hung up. Lost a lot of jigs, but catching fish made it worth it.
Bill Babler Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 Nolan, when I talking about the deep trees, the tops are coming up to that 15 to 20 ft. mark, you cannot see the tress normally. You can right now as the water is super clear. Try dragging a weedless fluke out where you were and just flat hang on, cause they are going to munch it. If it is breezy, throw a stickbait around those deep ones and work it by and near the tops. Great way to catch a true monster. Thanks for the post and good luck http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
johnboy2bfishin Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 Hey Bill thanks again if i may when you say drag a weedless fluke are you c rigging it or is there a specific way you rig it and if you don't want to say i understand trade secrets just trying to get hold of this lady i dont derby fish anymore just can't afford too anymore til economy gets better. I can do pretty good in the fall and winter and summer time at nigh but she is absolutely brutal to me in the spring and from reading your last couple post i am sure i am not deep enough most times. Anyway just curious to your set up on that fluke if you can Thanks again for all you do
dtrs5kprs Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 They will also eat that fluke in the middle of deeper coves if you see them popping. Had some today on it. Dead slow.
huntest Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 Bill, am I understanding you correctly that those fish will rise 10 feet or more to hit the jerk bait....just work it a little faster than colder water?
Bill Babler Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 Bill, am I understanding you correctly that those fish will rise 10 feet or more to hit the jerk bait....just work it a little faster than colder water? Yes they will in this clear water. But remember this, I am not fishing fish that are relating to the bottom. I am fishing staging fish in the pole timber and off the bluffends in front of spawning pockets. Not only are there fish suspended in the trees, but they are suspended on the long points. As I have stated these fish can be anywhere in the water column, not relating to the bottom in any fashion. I'm rigging my fluke weedless with a swivel up the line to prevent twists. 8 pound maxi on the main line and 12 pound invesx on the leader. Pretty much the same diameter in the line and the carbon not only helps to sink the bait it also help with abrasion and strength, yet it is pretty much invis. to the fishes. Just my thoughts, and it really works. On another note some of the guides are beginning to see some beds with fish on them. Most report they are seeing them much deeper than usual. 10 to 15 feet. Good Luck http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
buckcreekmike Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 Do you use a bait caster with a fluke or a spinning rod? I would think spinning, but I am getting to where I hate using spinning tackle. It just gets too twisted for me regardless of what lure I use. I would like to know anyone's thoughts on a bait cast rig that can cast lighter baits. Or is it all just dependent on line size and dialing in the reel correctly and getting a lighter action rod? Any thoughts?
Bill Babler Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 Please all, go to Pete Wenners Table Rock Lake video fishing report for April 11th. It is a piece on not only the fluke but the grub. We are doing the same thing, Pete is fishing a little shallower than I am, but it is so close it is unreal. He is also keeping his boat in the 25 to 30 range, I'm a bit deeper, but we are both fishing the same patterns on the same stuff to the same fish. Only in different areas of the lake. He and I have never discussed this. It is very well done and gets you exactly where I have been trying to lead. 99% of us are fishing the fluke on spinning. With the sampo style swivel, you should take out the twist. Other things to do is never under any circumstance when fishing a spinning reel, close the reel with the reel handle. Always, always close the bale with your hand.You will virtually take all the twists out of your line with that one manuver. Good Luck http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
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