Terry Beeson Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 LMW, Streamer patters - flies such as wooly buggers, soft hackles, clouser minnows, and others that are fished by drifting and stripping line to move them in the water. Streamers work under the surface and usually immitate some sort of fish. On Taney and many other streams you can cast a wooly bugger across or slightly up current, let it drift with the line "pulling it" back across the current. At the end of the drift, the fly will begin to turn and "face" upstream. At that point, get ready for a take... but if you don't, then (on Taney) slooooooooowwwwwwwwlllllyyyyyy strip it back towards you... You may have to adjust your strip speed on different waters and at different times, but lately on Taney it's been a sloooooowwww strip that has worked. TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
LostMyWife Posted November 18, 2006 Author Posted November 18, 2006 Terry So a swing pattern and a streamer pattern are the same thing? Yes, I'm That Guy
gonefishin Posted November 18, 2006 Posted November 18, 2006 LMW, You may have to adjust your strip speed on different waters and at different times, but lately on Taney it's been a sloooooowwww strip that has worked. Terry: I dont know what you are fishing for but you sure got me worked up and ready to go get em'. You sure you are after trout or are you wishing again. I know, I bet you got all worked up from using your Visa card on 1-800-Hot-Babe again. I would rather be fishin'. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Tightline Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 Ollie ,I have had a few of those looks down at Taney,but for the most part the fly guys are real gentlemen.I did have one older gent ask me if I was using power bait while I was reeling in one after another ,and another time last summer was doing real well poping my jigs up off the bottom rather hard, and I was asked if I was trying to snag them Trout, I started holding them up where he could see them hooked in the mouth,he soon left. I am trying to learn how to fly fish on my own, and when its not real crowded down there I'll get mine out of the truck and sling a few flies around for a while.But FOR NOW if I want to catch fish I rely on my spinning gear. TL
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted November 19, 2006 Root Admin Posted November 19, 2006 TL I almost went up to the dam last night to throw some jigs. A jig hopped off the bottom has to look like a sculpin to a trout- has to. I've watched how they move around the dock- they'll sit real still and then move quickly to another spot and then sit again. On the gravel flats below Lookout, I've worked a jig just the same as that and watched rainbows literally pick up a jig off the bottom while it sits motionless.
Terry Beeson Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 I am trying to learn how to fly fish on my own, and when its not real crowded down there I'll get mine out of the truck and sling a few flies around for a while.But FOR NOW if I want to catch fish I rely on my spinning gear. TL TL, Get with a good fly fisherman like several on this board. Any good fly fisherman worth his weight in salt is EAGER to help you learn. I tried the "on my own" learning curve when I first started fly fishing, but after my first "lesson" with someone who knew what he was doing, it made all the difference in the world. Even moving here and starting to fish Taney was different. After a night with Leonard, I saw several differences and the next few trips were way more productive than the couple before going out with him. You'll be surprised how quickly you will stop relying on your spinning rig to catch fish. LMW, Swing patterns are just streamers that are fished in the swing. All swings are streamers, but not all streamers are swings... (someone will prove me wrong on that... ) Really, it's the technique more than it is the fly. GF, Don't waste your time on the 1-800-Hot-Babe thing... nekkidnymphoneighbors dot com is much better.... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
LostMyWife Posted November 19, 2006 Author Posted November 19, 2006 Terry Slowly but surely I'm getting it. Been doing a lot of reading. I am hiring a guide next week. I hope. It will be my third trip with a guide. The first three put us on fish. We caught fish. They tied the fly, they found the fish, they tied the fly on the line. One actually casted for my wife. This time I need them to teach me what they are doing, not do it for me. I need to go on a teaching trip, not a fishing trip. Hopefully, one will produce the other, but that is not the priority. Yes, I'm That Guy
duckydoty Posted November 19, 2006 Posted November 19, 2006 LMW I'd like to hire a guide for the same reason. Just to watch and learn. I've tried to hook up with Leonard but our schedules just seem to be out of wack all the time. I've been fishing Taney at least once a week, sometimes 3-4 times a week for the last 7 months and still feel I could use some lessons on fishing it. Duckydoty A Little Rain Won't Hurt Them Fish.....They're Already Wet!! Visit my website at.. Ozark Trout Runners
Terry Beeson Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 Talk to some of the guides who have been fishing these waters for a long time. Most of them, I bet, will admit they are "still learning" as well. Things change... that's inevitable. And you have to go through a learning curve to catch up. That's part of what makes it such a great sport! I got to watch the first half hour or so of "A River Runs Through It" the other night, and I was thinking about the differences in what they were using back in 1909-1930s and what we use now. Wow... what a difference!! But, I bet on some of those old rivers in Montana, the same thing they used back then would still work today. When you hire a guide, get one that will give you fly fishing lessons. Specify to him that's what you want. I talked to John Wilson a year ago about needing that and he told me to get him for a full day... lessons in the morning, fishing in the afternoon to put what I learned to the test. I bet there are a lot of guides who will do just that. Yep.. Leonard is a good one to help you learn Taney, but I bet he'll say the same thing... TIGHT LINES, YA'LL "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a breadcrumb, and getting licked in the process." - Paul O’Neil
Leonard Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 LMW.. I'd be happy to show you what I know during the day.. Its not much but im sure it will be enough to put you on fish... I not that much of a daytime fisherman anymore... so Im probably not the guy to ask about day fishing... but Im sure I can show you the basics that your looking for.. I like the night thing... where its so cold your line freezes in the eyes of your rod.... you cant strip out any line because the reel is froze up... you cant tye on a size 2 fly cause your finger is so num you cant feel them anymore.... full moon above, sky full of stars, owls hooting, coyotes barking..and darn beavers everywhere And you have the lake all to yourself and the fish are biting..... NOW THATS FISHING!!! http://www.taneycomonights.com
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