Mitch f Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 Please translate to English! what is doodle socking? "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Ham Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 Doodle socking to me. I've got a 16 ft telescoping fiberglass pole with a short piece of 80 lb Dacron line off the end. Giant swivel tied to that. Attach whatever lure you want to try. Rhythmically tap tip of rod in water while dragging lure around cover. Strikes are sudden and very dramatic. Large fish make for chaos. Can be very effective at times or a fun waste of time. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
Old plug Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 There is a other factors. I do use hard baits but soft plastics give me all sorts of option in presentation. For example I can add different weights to get a different sink. I can fish a 11" plastic worm slower than you can a crank bait anywhere in the water table. I can change color faster. I know of someone who fishes unweighted plastic worms over deep water and out in the middle of channels. Done at the right time and place it is a hot ticket to king sized bass. I just like the plastic flexibility i suppose more than anything. The other thing is i do not like to be sold a line. I feel like that is exactly what these tackle manufactures and others are doing is fishing for fishermen. We git a local writer here that spends 1/2 of his column sometimes pushing lures. A couple of these TV Pros do some if that. But Rolland Martin sounds like a darn Used car salesman. The prices they ask for this stuff bothers me. I think it is inflated to the limit. I do not understand why any lure should cost $12 a rod should cost $200 or more and and a reel way more than that . Does it really make you a better fisherman.? I do not think it does. I almost exclusively fish Ugly sticks. I have since the first year they were made. As a matter of fact I still have and fish with the first one I bought.
RSBreth Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 I can fish a 11" plastic worm slower than you can a crank bait anywhere in the water table. I can change color faster. I know of someone who fishes unweighted plastic worms over deep water and out in the middle of channels. Um - no, there are suspending cranks and jerkbaits, that when "tuned" perfectly don't rise up OR fall on the pause. Suspended perfectly - doesn't get "slower" than that. Matter of fact - most of my biggest Table Rock Bass have come on suspending Jerkbaits on a loooooong pause - 30-seconds, a minute, sometimes even more. Just sitting there, neither rising or falling, getting stared at by the Bass that finally couldn't take it any more and hit it. They're pretty new though, you may not have heard of them since they were invented in the deep clear Ozark reservoirs in the late 60's or early 70's by guys modifying their lures. (<- I'm just giving you a (hopefully good-natured) hard time.) Anyway - fish what YOU like - but there are some really good techniques out there - this lure doesn't look like more than hype to me, personally. A good suspending hardbait has no equal in cold water or suspended fish - except a soft bait under a float (bobber). And for the "changing color faster" - I use a snap most of the time - easier to put on a different crank or jerk than re-threading a soft plastic on a hook.
Old plug Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Yes your right. I was thinking in the vein of reeling. I do use suspending baits, top waters and wake bates plus a few others. Also I do not want the worm to suspend. I want it to fall very slowly most of the time. But I do a lot if jerking and dancing between the falls . As far as it ever standing still at 30 ft i would not say it is not possible. It would depend on things like the the buoyancy of the line and the worm. Basically I personally put my faith in plastic worms and grubs.
LarrySTL Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 On the hijacked topic of tearing up plastic lures, has anybody tried the ZMan plastic worms, craws etc ? They are a little more expensive than the usual name brands but not much. Fish seem to hold onto them very well, and you just about cant tear one of them up. Like routinely 5 to 10 bass on one worm, and the first time you try to bite one of them to shorten it, you will find yourself giving up and getting your knife out. They dont feel hard, but they just wont rip. BTW if you try em, store them away from all other plastics as they will eat plastic hard baits and other brands of plastic worms. http://intervenehere.com
RSBreth Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 ZMan stuff is neat but that is the problem - don't mix and match it or Berkley GULP stuff - none of it works with other plastics - turns into a gob of - well, a mess. It's too bad because I'd love to use one the grubs as a spinnerbait trailer but it usually makes a mess with the skirt on the spinnerbait it you store it together.
Old plug Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 - none of it works with other plastics - turns into a gob of - well, a mess. it sure is
Al Agnew Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 Given how that stuff eats other plastics, you gotta wonder whether it's unhealthy to handle it. And especially try to bite it in two!
Old plug Posted July 29, 2013 Posted July 29, 2013 I tried it one tine with wacky on a sinko type retrieve I had trouble right off the I had trouble being able to get the hook set through the balled up plastic because it stretches so much. Later on I had trouble with it changing bouncy. To me it is not worth the effort.
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