SpoonDog Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 There are however, millions of lazy, unhealthy, twinkie-eating, cigarette-smoking Americans who can't seem to be able to afford healthcare, but can somehow afford a flat screen TV, smartphone, and a car note. This is the REAL problem that needs to be addressed. There are probably lots of lazy, unhealthy, twinkie-eating, cigarette smoking Americans who can afford healthcare, and the cost of their unhealthy habits raises insurance premiums above what low income (but healthy) individuals can pay. So are you willing to provide inexpensive healthcare to low-income folks who can pass a physical?
1969Larson Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 "There are however, millions of lazy, unhealthy, twinkie-eating, cigarette-smoking Americans who can't seem to be able to afford healthcare, but can somehow afford a flat screen TV, smartphone, and a car note. This is the REAL problem that needs to be addressed." Isn't that what the individual mandate of the ACA tries to address?? Exactly. It doesn't need to be addressed by the Federal Government. They can ALREADY go buy insurance if they are so inclined and are as concerned about their health as people want me to think they are.
SpoonDog Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Has anyone been denied healthcare in the US under the present system before Obamacare? The problem was not denial of healthcare, it was the insurance factor. People were using the healthcare system and not paying their bills, therefore driving up costs for all others. I guess it depends on what you mean. To my knowledge a hospital cannot deny care, regardless of ability to pay. But I think one could make the argument that refusing to cover those with pre-existing conditions represents a denial of healthcare.
Justin Spencer Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Exactly. It doesn't need to be addressed by the Federal Government. They can ALREADY go buy insurance if they are so inclined and are as concerned about their health as people want me to think they are. The problem is many won't and we end up paying there bills, that's why it has to be required, just like car insurance. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
1969Larson Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 The problem is many won't and we end up paying there bills, that's why it has to be required, just like car insurance. I'll agree that any health insurance required should be just like car insurance... You never expect to have to use it. It is only for a horrible situation. It doesn't pay for regular tune ups or flat tires or fill ups. There is incentive to be in a low risk category by paying less. You can lose your coverage (too many traffic tickets, DUI's, etc).
hank franklin Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 BINGO. but at the same time when a person is well enough they are discharged and if they come back non-life-threatening they are expected to pay for services rendered. And I believe people should pay for health care, but I do not believe I should be paying for someone elses. Again going back to I work hard and have spent a lot of money on my education ( and yes I paid for it ) so why should I have to pay for someone else, that is basically theft. Would you let someone come in your house and take all your food or clothing? Do you buy meals for every homeless person you see or give every one of them ,money on the corner. We ALREADY pay for all sort of other people's healthcare via Medicaid and Medicare. My church does all sorts of things to help the homeless, and yes I pay my church. So....?
1969Larson Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 There are probably lots of lazy, unhealthy, twinkie-eating, cigarette smoking Americans who can afford healthcare, and the cost of their unhealthy habits raises insurance premiums above what low income (but healthy) individuals can pay. So are you willing to provide inexpensive healthcare to low-income folks who can pass a physical? Yes. I am willing to provide inexpensive healthcare to low-income folkes...Locally - Where it can be controlled. Where it can be visible. Where it will not be abused. And most importantly... Where it is NOT UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
mixermarkb Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Then get after it. Get the Tea Party state reps writing those bills, and talking about it. I'll vote for them if they have a credible plan to provide health coverage for the poor in Missouri. Let's do it!
Justin Spencer Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 Supreme Court? "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
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