Spinning Reel On A Casting Rod.

[dtrs5kprs]

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Why does that smurf have a black hat? I'm so confused.

I was waiting for Hoglaw to jump in. Could not bring myself to get into the details of sizing, spacing, stripper guides, etc. Guess with that method you do not have to worry about measuring the spool for guide layout...

[Haris122]

and spincast reels weren't designed to be used upside down.

I'm curious though, what exactly is the mechanical detriment to using them that way? Is it like moguy1973 said, that the bend of the rod is supposed to be the opposite way and that this may cause it to break if let's say you're fighting a strong fish? Cause I feel like the way I use it now, the actual act of casting is just a lot more controlable than using it the traditional way when you push the button as you cast. Now I just push the button, hold the line to the rod and release it as I cast it out. I tried a few times the way it was designed, and with most of those reels, the line would start to unspool and then hang up on something, resulting in a poor cast. Not that that never happens the other way around, but I felt like it happens less frequently this way, on top of being more natural to me.

[Al Agnew]

Probably the reason it feels more natural to you is because that's how you've always done it.

First of all, I know a couple of guys who have simply always used spincast reels, and are extremely proficient with them, WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS OF THE EQUIPMENT. Spincast does have limitations. Few, if any, spincast reels have a very fast line retrieval, so if you're fishing lures where you cast out, fish the productive zone of five or ten feet of your retrieve, and then reel in quickly for the next cast, with spincast stuff you'll probably only get in about half the casts that you will with a faster line retrieval spinning or casting reel. And because the spincast line has to come off a spool on the inside and then neck down immediately into that little hole coming out of the casing, each cast has inherently more line drag and all other things being equal, you won't cast as efficiently or as far with spincast as with spinning. But those guys I mentioned do very well with spincast gear. Both of them use it the "right" way, but with a two hand cast. Their right hand holds the rod handle, index finger around the trigger, thumb on the push button. Left hand palms the reel, with index finger hovering at the edge of the hole where the line comes out. Push the button, hold it down, start the casting motion, release the thumb off the button at the proper timing. As the cast plays out, their index finger on the palming hand feathers the line as it comes out of the hole in the reel, almost as effectively slowing and stopping the cast as an educated thumb on a baitcast reel. Lure hits the water and their right hand comes off the rod handle to the reel handle to start cranking, while the left hand continues to hold the whole outfit by palming the reel.

One of those guys, my brother in law, finally learned how to cast baitcast and spinning reels, and now almost never uses all his old spincast reels. That's what nearly everybody eventually does, because spinning and baitcasting are simply better at just about everything.

But maybe the best answer to your question is, you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, and although you've succeeded in hammering the darn thing in, it still won't fit as tightly as if it was a round peg. Neither the reels nor the rods are designed to be fished the way you're fishing them, and it's just not ergonomically efficient. Spend about 20 hours of fishing it, or even just casting it in your back yard, the right way, and you'll get accustomed to it and probably be happier and more comfortable.

Or just dump the spincast and get a halfway decent spinning outfit.

[John Andrews]

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HOLY CRAP I just shot soda out my nose that was freaking funny

[hoglaw]

If it works for you great.

The stuff about the rod bending the wrong way is true to some extent, but it's not really a big issue. Rod builders for a long time have built rods on the "spine" of the rod. There's a natural shape the blank wants to deflect to when under load, so you put the guides and reel where it will make the blank deflect to that spot when under a load. But now I see lots of talk about builders building on the "straightest axis" instead of the spine. I'm not sure what exactly that means. Bottom line is folks are disregarding the spine stuff nowadays anyway for top end custom builds.

The guide placement is the big issue for me. Putting a spinning rod on a baitcast guide setup is inherently flawed because it isn't getting the line under control in an efficient manner. If the question is "can you do it," then the answer is sure, you can do anything. You could put guides on a golf club and fish it if you wanted to (or a bananna).

You can do whatever you want. If you like it and it works for you, then great. There's nothing "wrong" about doing it. But like Al said, all equipment has limitations. You're combining the worst of both worlds and maximizing limitations instead of maximizing performance within the confines of the limitations of proper equipment. I see zero benefits and plenty of negatives. But that's all outweighed by the fact that you like it apparently.

I could put a four cylinder in my tundra and still tow my boat if I wanted to. It's "possible." Doesn't mean it's a good idea or that it will perform as well as it could with just using the right tools for the job.

[Simonthegolfer]

I have known the guides of the rod is bigger on a spinner rod. I never thought much about it. Keep in mind though, I'm only 17 and have onlygotten into fishing a whole lot the past couple years. I don't want seem like a complete idiot. For now I will keep the same rod/reel combo until a spinner rod presents itself. I'm not gonna jump up and guy buy a brand new rod for 200 bucks just because my rod isn't right. Thanks guys. Great info on rods, never knew much about the science of them!

[hoglaw]

Simon

Absolutely no need to spend $200. Check pawn shops, craigslist, walmart. Heck, I didn't realize you were 17. Shoot me a pm and I'll give you a spinning rod and reel. I'm in Fayetteville.

[Simonthegolfer]

Haha thanks for that offer. But no need to give me anything lol. I just bought a new shimano reel last week.