barredrock Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 who is tying these, i cant find them anywhere trythisonemv 1
trythisonemv Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, barredrock said: who is tying these, i cant find them anywhere Don't know about hot red hair ear but a red head scud will certainly do the trick on taney
Members Tom C Posted August 23, 2023 Members Posted August 23, 2023 Is this it? Looks like Fulling Mills used to sell it.; but I couldn't find it on their website. Hot Rib Hares Ear Jig Nymph from Fulling Mill Hook: Fulling Mill Jig Force 5045 S12 Bead: Fulling Mill Slotted Tungsten Bead 3.8mm Thread: Brown UTC 70 Tail: Coq De Leon Rib: Glo Brite No4 Shellback: Mirage Tinsel Body: Hares Ear Hackle: Brown Partridge Thorax: Peacock Glister BilletHead 1
tjm Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 A little different take with no shellback- https://flytotie.com/flies/nymphs/hot-ribbed-hares-ear/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKg2nm2eE5A Hot Ribbed Hare's Ear Recipe: Hook: #12 Hanak 400BL Bead: 3.5mm Gold Slotted Tungsten Thread: 70 Denier Red Ultra Thread Tail: Medium Pardo CDL Rib: Fl Orange Glo Brite Floss Body: Hare's Ear Dubbing Hackle: Natural Dun CDC Collar: Peacock Ice Dub Tom C and trythisonemv 2
BilletHead Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Boys I have been searching for these after this posting this subject. nomolites, tjm and trythisonemv 1 2 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
trythisonemv Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 So many similar patterns ... blow torch is another good one... guides choice also tjm 1
tjm Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 New pattern names always intrigue me, I am compelled to look them out, although most of my flies aren't really patterns, they just happen. I've tied similar to the above lots of times but with no bead and no collar and what ever yarn or dubbing is at hand with what ever soft hackle is at hand. With or without tails. One thing I always do though is to counter wrap any ribbing, unlike many of the video tyers who wrap the rib in the same direction as the dubbing, so that it has more of a tendency to bury itself. Typically I prefer a corded thread rib to a flat/floss rib, I think the third dimension makes the rib more visible, same reason I prefer wire to tinsel for rib. trythisonemv 1
BilletHead Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, tjm said: New pattern names always intrigue me, I am compelled to look them out, although most of my flies aren't really patterns, they just happen. I've tied similar to the above lots of times but with no bead and no collar and what ever yarn or dubbing is at hand with what ever soft hackle is at hand. With or without tails. One thing I always do though is to counter wrap any ribbing, unlike many of the video tyers who wrap the rib in the same direction as the dubbing, so that it has more of a tendency to bury itself. Typically I prefer a corded thread rib to a flat/floss rib, I think the third dimension makes the rib more visible, same reason I prefer wire to tinsel for rib. I can see all your attributes you speak of. One thing I try to keep in mind is I want it to look like something natural even if it has a hotspot or other thing to grab the eye of the fish. Another thing is symmetry which goes back to something natural. We have to face it a fish will hit a wad of fuzz if its hungry. trythisonemv 1 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
tjm Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BilletHead said: to look like something natural If it even suggests something natural it will work. Follow the proportions that tyers figured out two hundred years ago for wets/nymphs and those figured out a hundred years ago for dries and make all the streamers have Cardinal Minnow or chub or sculpin shape with some wiggle. Provide contrast were natural things have contrast like olive back over cream belly for a streamer with perhaps a lateral line. Ribbing on most flies is there to simulate segmentation, so it should have some contrast. Buried in the dubbing it doesn't add much to the fly. So much has to do with silhouette/profile, but it's important to remember that most of what trout eat is 1/2" long and gray/brown. Often skinny too. I also think that within reason shades of color matter more than hue in subsurface presentation, and that neither maters greatly if the fly is above the film. I've done a lot of casual experimentation in trying to find what flies won't work over the years, and my stand out as "the fly that just won't catch a fish" is the yarn egg/fuzz ball/glow ball; yet thousands of trout are hooked them daily. But I never could catch a trout on corn either. I'm pretty sure that hot spots are for the angler's eye as much as for the fish, just think of all the fish caught before hot spots were invented.
BilletHead Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, tjm said: If it even suggests something natural it will work. Follow the proportions that tyers figured out two hundred years ago for wets/nymphs and those figured out a hundred years ago for dries and make all the streamers have Cardinal Minnow or chub or sculpin shape with some wiggle. Provide contrast were natural things have contrast like olive back over cream belly for a streamer with perhaps a lateral line. Ribbing on most flies is there to simulate segmentation, so it should have some contrast. Buried in the dubbing it doesn't add much to the fly. So much has to do with silhouette/profile, but it's important to remember that most of what trout eat is 1/2" long and gray/brown. Often skinny too. I also think that within reason shades of color matter more than hue in subsurface presentation, and that neither maters greatly if the fly is above the film. I've done a lot of casual experimentation in trying to find what flies won't work over the years, and my stand out as "the fly that just won't catch a fish" is the yarn egg/fuzz ball/glow ball; yet thousands of trout are hooked them daily. But I never could catch a trout on corn either. I'm pretty sure that hot spots are for the angler's eye as much as fir the fish, just think of all the fish caught before hot spots were invented. Yet chartreuse is the bomb on many, many fish. Something about colors do trigger fish. Red is another. I do either a pink/white/chartreuse or one with a red head. I have caught more fish on that as any other color wooly bugger. trythisonemv 1 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
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