Bill Babler Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 As far as Bass Pro's pledge, I want to see CASH, I will just about guarantee you that it will not be in the form of cash but in time, labor and equipment usage. Their equilivant of a 1.5 million gift, is a boat driver, operating their tree barge for about a 20 hr. week. They have said this, and done this time, after time, after time. When are we going to wise up to the fact that this is only a PR move on their part. And I'm sure, a tax write off. If the govt. would use the entire allotment that is targeted for TR and use it for spawning habitat for crappie, that would be great. They will not. Crappie, don't make them a dime. If you are a crappie fisherman and think even 1 penny of this if for you, I have some great ocean front property in Arizona for only $100,000 an acre I would love to sell ya. For crappie spawning cover to work,they would have to have the total commitment from the Corp. to hold the water levels at high or stable levels during the spawn. Yea Right!! One MDC fisheries official said this is probably equilivant to spending $15,000 per toliet lid on the submarines. Is anything we get better than nothing? For the most part, probably not. Ask the Public Relations dept.at Bass Pro. http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
crappiefisherman Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 If they need a tax dodge, who cares?If they want to dump trees in the lake fine.Im betting more then a week with a pontoon is in order.Fishing guides that build fish cover are only doing it for themselves and personal gain.hmmm.sounds familar huh [ [
Bill Babler Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Why take a huge appropreation like this, if it is what they say it is,and waste it? I could personally give a flying flop about every brush pile in Table Rock lake. I will never put another one in. And accually I have put very few. Most piles are put in by the night fisherman, and the tourney boys. Why is anything always better than nothing, no matter what the cost or reason? http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
crappiefisherman Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 I am not fencing with you.I was stating a fact without back pedaling.fish cover may not be important for bass, but it is for the lowly crappie and bluegill, not to mention ive caught more walleye accidently by crappie beds then on purpose in the main lake.I say more power to them and untill they decide to give each of us fisherman money to spend any way we like it on fish habitat , I say more power to them. PLEASE aknowledge the fact that I am in no way an expert but ive fished the lakes here and yonder for my, expert opinions,,,,ha ha ha ha ha [ [
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted October 13, 2007 Root Admin Posted October 13, 2007 Fishing guides that build fish cover are only doing it for themselves and personal gain.hmmm.sounds familar huh I think you can say that for anyone who sinks brush in a lake or pond.
bassman1308 Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Just some thoughts on the subject. Did you see the lake when it was almost 15 ft low a few years ago? Very little shoreline cover compared to 30 years ago. IMHO, this is why its more difficult to catch bank fish and why we now spend so much time watching our graphs trying to catch suspended fish. I'm certainly not an expert, but wouldn't more shoreline cover help the fish survive, make them more shoreline orintated and make fishing easier for the average joe. You are right on about brushpiles not producing like they use to? Why is that?? I've been putting out deep brushpiles since 1988 ( mostly cedars.) Yes, I did this for me. Lots of hard work. USED to catch ALOT of bass out of them, mostly night fishing. About the time of the fish kill, that changed drastically. I suspect most of these BPS piles will be on the lower end of the lake. Close to Big Cabin.
Members DeadHead Posted October 15, 2007 Members Posted October 15, 2007 Sooo.....would cutting and dragging the cedars etc down to the banks provide more visible, shallow cover and help black bass and the young of the year fry be better than sinking deeper?
taxidermist Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 After Suba Diving for years on Table Rock and Bull Shoals and Greers Ferry, I find not many fish use brush piles, mostly bream. After about 3 years the attraction of the pile is gone for some reason. We find more and bigger fish where there are log laydowns, these include bass and walleye, they do hide under the logs, these logs need to be about 10inches in dia or larger. In years to come after our lifetime the highland res. will become largemouth lakes again. the water will warm thats a fact. The best thing for fish survival woould be for the corp to hold the lake steady with the shoreline brush being covered for a couple years. Maybe the fisheries should look at intrudicing lake trout into Table Rock, Ark. did some stocking of lakers years back and they did very well. But most people had no idea of what the fish was, just a trout is all they knew.
CMAC Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Surely there can be some good from this brush pile project. It works at Lake of the Ozarks (mature lake). I agree with taxidermist, the logs work better than the cedars. Most avid brush builders here try to use large logs with a split off or fork. However, I do see the ease of using cedars vs. large cumbersome logs. Two cents.
FRENZEL Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Why will the water warm?? TRACY FRENZEL FRENZELS GUIDE SERVICE 417-699-2277 "ONE MORE CAST"
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