Minimum Flow Update

[Phil Lilley]

2 statements:

I can honestly say MDC isn't doing this for boaters... doesn't make any sense.

I can honestly say I can see a battle between waders and boaters, worse than there is now. Boaters will head up, even to the cable, more often. Not large boats but small river jons with jets.

[Danoinark]

2 statements:

I can honestly say MDC isn't doing this for boaters... doesn't make any sense.

I can honestly say I can see a battle between waders and boaters, worse than there is now. Boaters will head up, even to the cable, more often. Not large boats but small river jons with jets.

Phil, does MDC really have any say so? I thought this was between the Corps and SWPA. I am not sure AGFC has gotten into the foray down here.

Also I have to agree that I see some boater vs wader issues too. We will all have to be more in tune to our fellow angler whether boater or wader.

Dano

[Phil Lilley]

Why not require one generator to be running 24/7 This power can be diverted to the lines and sent where needed, reducing the amount of coal burned maybe even locally as Jame River plant or the Newark Ar plant.

That's what they'll do at Table Rock- run a partial unit 24/7.

I'm thinking... "who" initiated minimum flow? I thought it was AF&G. MDC has been putting pressure on SPA and the Corp for 10 years or more. I've always credited Ark for beating MO to the punch. May be I'm off base.

[Danoinark]

Phil

I believe you are right. My mistake. Here is a good overview of it from the AGFC perspective. I guess it originally was proposed by the commission then "groups" began championing it.

http://www.agfc.com/fishing/resources-fish...-flow-fish.aspx

[Dave Cook]

If the bottom line of the minimum flow is to improve fishing for everyone, then this wader will adapt and love the results. I just hate saying goodbye to so many good spots that will become inaccessible to waders.

I just hope there will be data from MDC to show how it goes.

When they changed the rules at Taneycomo to create the trophy area, my impression of the fishing was that it was greatly improved and that was before any empirical data was published by MDC. It was that noticeable. So let's hope for a similar boost in the quality of fishing.

[Don Allenbaugh]

Does anyone know of any study or report that has been done anywhere after minimum flow has been established on a tailwater? I have not been able to find one.

As far as to who it will benefit it does seem a little odd that 3 million dollars was spent by Tyson Chicken lobbying for minimum flow. The Arkansas Cattlemen's association also spent 1 and 1/2 million lobbying for minimun flow. These figures were supplied by a rather knowledgeable local guide and boat builder. In addition Forrest Wood was the biggest individual proponet of minimum flow on local tailwaters.

Could it be dilute the pollution and ride over it in a boat?

[Danoinark]

Interesting comments Don. One of the most vocal opponents of minimum flow is Fox Statler. I wish he would comment. Dano

[Phil Lilley]

"As far as to who it will benefit it does seem a little odd that 3 million dollars was spent by Tyson Chicken lobbying for minimum flow. The Arkansas Cattlemen's association also spent 1 and 1/2 million lobbying for minimun flow."

Interesting!!

[snagged in outlet 3]

I wouldn't use the word "interesting". More like Scary.

SIO3

[Don Allenbaugh]

Forrest Wood was President of the Arkansas Cattlemen's Accoc at the time of the lobbying and was also president of the AGFC board at the time. He was interviewed by a local writer in the local sucker wrapper (Baxter Bulletin) and in the article proposed minimum flow as a plus for the fish. I called the writer and gave him five questions to ask Wood concerning pollution, DO content, loss of places for bank fisherman, so called benefits and his being associated with river boats but Wood refused to comment on any of them to the writer. I then emailed Wood for comment and he did not reply. I guess he didn't like any of my questions.