I'm not very good either. I got lucky once this year and won a little money. I get my butt kicked every time I go out. I must be a glutton for punishment cuz I keep going back. I spend almost all fishing time on Beaver trying to learn new areas and trying new things. Eventually it will pay off, but I haven't earned it yet. It is a humbling experience sometimes. For the most part I am self taught. I picked up the sport about 7 years ago and don't have many people to look to. That's why I enjoy looking at these Forums. With what I read here and my own trial and error someday I might actually be able to hold my own.