Have fished the Duo Realis 80 twice. Last Thursday had fair results. Would cast at fish that were pushing minnows on surface and let it sink to thermocline 15 to 17 feet where I was fishing. They would hit it on the drop and stick less than half the time. Seemed to get more hooked when at that depth and had it moving. Today not any luck with the bait didn't see as much fish activity. could only get them off bottom. I was fishing 6# Floro P-line so a bit heavy, but I'm a chicken to use 4# except for trout. It would sink horizontal and wobble going down and cast a good distance. My best guess it would sink at 1'/sec. I'm going to keep trying it on suspended fish.