Lancer09

Thank you for the advice everyone. Thankfully I have a few people who will learn to row or not fish out of a boat. I hadn't heard much about the adipose boats but really like their flow skiff, and a lot of the other "skiff" style boats. The search has begun.

That is the info I was looking for. Thank you for the recommendation on the 15 foot boat. I know I mentioned the shorter boats but I didn't know if a 15 footer could really float that many rivers around here. That was seriously helpful. Trigger, Thank you very much!

D&D. I also did a triple... but it was a bit snakey looking. Hog snare

For those of you that have them, did you buy them new or used? I'm looking into used ones, solely for price reasons however I really like the look of the boats that Stealth Craft puts out for the price, especially their 13 or 14 foot models. I've never fished one so what are some of the things that you guys look for in a boat for the ozarks area? Would a 13 or 14 foot boat work for floating the tailwaters and rivers around here that are big enough to do so? When searching for used boats I can't seem to find a place that really has a bunch of listings, other than craigslist, do you know of any good used boat websites? I mentioned stealthcraft and I REALLY like the design and layouts of their boats, does anyone have any experience with them? Does anyone use a motor on their boat or do you shuttle every time? If (it's more a matter of when) I get a boat I don't know that i'll always have another person with me or use a shuttle, do motors really work out ok on drift boats? Thanks for any questions any one can answer, I'm trying to get the skinny on brands, models, and sizes so I can really figure out what I should be looking for.

Cnr, Look into the Allen reels. Ive heard nothing but good things about them. I know Brian Wise has one, I'm sure he could answer any questions you have.

Your right.... I did. It wasn't that bad I just had to hour them in carefully. Sorry that last message of mine was nearly unreadable.

Mike is head and shoulders above where I am. His are just packed a lot tighter and his proportions look better as well as his trimming is crisp. It does however just take a LOT of practice and wasted deer hair. I know doing some divers for the smallmouth swap a while back made me a lot better, and faster with packing hair too. For the fly above I spun a layer of gray to get a base and then stacked a layer on the bottom and then stacked my colors on the top of the hook. I have always had better luck getting the bottom color to come higher on the body of the fly that way but that's just me. Also, steaming the fly after the initial trim can help get everything freshened up and you can hit it with a razor one more time and get some really neat nice lines.

Jump in on the Brown Trout streamer swap next summer. He has done it the last two years with us. I've finished six of each. I'm slowly wrapping them up at about one every couple of days or so.

Well I started one. I have it trimmed and started in the hair. I'll be coming back to it. I think I had six clumps of hair to the eye and y pi r right that la sad one is a real bear. It takes a ton of deer hair first sure too. It's not as good as mikes but it's coming along. I still have to do the tail, the second set of fins and finish the mohawk.

Insane. Now I want to try one. Are you doing all the deer hair and glueing in the feathers around that? How many clumps of deer hair are you stacking on top and bottom? what kind of packer are you using? Good Grief.

That is awesome! What hook were you working with there.

Did you buy chance buy Cohen's book to help with that or just wing it?

Insane.

I'm thinking that I may be there to check this out. I with I could actually go on the trip but hearing about it first hand is better than Nothing.

Looking good to me. I'm digging that top one a lot.

Yes. I had to bail last year. That isn't happening again. I can bring beer, and flies. A lot of both.

I want to do this.

Oh Yeah that'll fish real Well.

Stonefly nymph. Size 8.

For the pond swap I will be doing a dragonfly nymph. They flat out catch fish on weedlines.

For the trout swap I'm doing a stonefly nymph. I have started those. For the pond swap I'm leaning toward some wiggle minnows.

Mic if you wanted to open to more people I'm fine with that. I don't mind tying a dozen or more of each

I'll tie both. Don't know what yet.

I'll join. However I think a straight trout swap might pull more interest?

The reason there have been openings for backs is because they have been playing to prevent the quarterbacks that they have been playing from rushing. Outside of the Philly and Buffalo games I don't believe they have allowed a 100 game. I think KC gets it 27-24. We have faced the toughest defenses of the season for our offense and we have had two weeks to prep. Now our Defense needs to play against the best offenses that they have seen. It also doesn't hurt that the Chiefs have one of the best turnover margins, and the broncos have been fumbling like it's going out of style. I think they play some SERIOUS bump and run with the corners and Peyton is going to be in for a long day if Poe can collapse the pocket and prevent him from stepping up. Andy needs to take a note out of Rex Ryan's book (I hope I never have to say that again) and tell the refs to watch some of the ridiculous, and illegal at that pick plays the receivers have been running.