fishinwrench

Yep. I feel plenty confident about my shooting ability's when at the range or out hunting, but I wouldn't trust my "snap shots while under surprise attack" to save anyones life. Earlier when I said I'd rather take my chances what I should have said, and what I meant to imply was that I'd rathe take my chances than to go about my everyday life in a "unrelaxed ready to defend at any second" type of mindset. And that is what it would take for me to be "prepared" yet safe at the same time.

Late April to mid-May is hard to beat.

I actually don't, that was never part of my point. But as the number of clumsy CCW permit grads increase I may soon fear them worse than I do an auto crash, especially since I only cover about 10,000 miles of road per year, yet am within range of 200,000+ of my fellow man in that same amount of time.

I for one don't question the right to carry (concealed or otherwise), what I question is the reason to. I have a "god given" right to fart in public too, but I refrain from doing it unless it is ultimately necessary. What is everyone gonna do when criminals start wearing kevlar, and who's to assume they won't be?

Oh hell, Larry..... just speak up will ya? You do email so I know darn good and well you are aware of OAF and pop on from time to time. Surely you aren't too aloof to accompany this discussion regarding YOU and your cause. The registration is quick and simple if you aren't already registered.....lets hash it out, wanna?

True enough! If someone is staying in the park cabins or campground would they not be allowed to call for a cab, or call AAA if they had auto trouble? Or have a pizza delivered? Upon further thought this does seem to be a personal attack by the state on the people who choose to lodge there. Even requiring a fee payable by the outfitter is totally out of line. Any fee the park would impose upon them for "permission" wouldn't be any skin off the outfitters back, they'd just tack on an additional buck or two onto their rental fee.

Not much really, it's fairly remote and a good place to "get away from it all".

I did notice that ol'Bob was serious about making sure he collected his piddly parking fee from us last January at NRO. I've never been to hip on the way they TAKE CONTROL of the public access when they want to dump off a load of floaters. Riverfront doesn't pull that crap, neither does Adventure or Fort Niangua....only NRO. Burns, in all reality pretty much acts like he owns that darn river. Not too cool IMO.

The dude has been on this crusade for long enough that if it was ever gonna lead to anything it would have by now. No doubt that most of his accusations are true but what is anyone ever gonna do about it? Nothin'.

Nope, people NEED to stop living in fear of $#!t that isn't a realistic threat.

Such an efficient "weapon" too! That POS is worthless at anything other than point blank range. You ain't gonna be a hero and save the day with a derringer, you'd be better off with a sling shot. Like I.said, I've sat at the range and observed some of these CCW permit grads, watched them fumble around loading their guns (as if it was a rubics cube) and more trigger slapping, flinching, and swing throughs than I ever care to witness. I find it hard to believe that I am the only one who has spent time at a shooting range and noticed this.

LOL, Yeah the term "safely overloaded" is a bit of an oxymoron.

The closed cell foam on some tennis shoes/flip flops could be a technicality, but it would really surprise me if you got hassled about it. My thoughts are that by the time Summer gets here the men behind badges are gonna be pretty tired of walking around looking at peoples feet.

The rated max weight capacity in a jon boat is considering that the boat is moving under power, since it technically is a "motor boat". Another consideration is that in a wider boat the load is subject to shift to one side while under power (like if two 170lb. passengers scooted to one side at the same time, and then a heavy cooler or battery slid when it tilted.... and capsized the boat while under power). Ratings are based on safety, not necessarily on the amount of weight vs. water displacement that the hull is capable of. Then there is the manuverabilty issue, a heavy narrow boat is easier to maneuver via oars or paddles than a heavy wider boat. That's about the best way I know of explaining it. But the main rating issue has to do with being "underway with max rated power".

That's pretty crazy. So you'd have to carry an unopened beer from your vehicle to a "safe zone"..... but you wouldn't be able to carry the empty can/bottle back ? Whaddaya do now? There ya are stuck in legal limbo .... standing there holding a bottle for all eternity.

It's my undetstanding that the rule stands in all Mo. State Parks and has recently been enforced. I know alot of guys will slam a beer with lunch over the tailgate, and will likely continue to, but I bet the penalty would be pretty stiff. A boater anchored in HaHaTonka cove was arrested for it, tried to fight it and lost..... So I sure wouldn't chance it at Bennett. I'm actually not too sure that MDC accesses don't have the same ruling.

Ha! That first clip is from July '10 and that's MY DOG! and my girlfriends nephew at Riverfront. How cool ! Riverdog made the future news ! Now, back to the point of the post ..... Are they talking about not letting them put in at the MDC 64access, nor take out at Barclay? Or are they just not allowing them to enter the State Park (Spring branch) area? Technically they never should have been inside the park boundaries in the first place unless NO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES were onboard any of the canoes or shuttle busses. It's illegal to have a beer, or a flask of whiskey, or so much as a wine cooler at Bennett Spring.

Couldn't be possible that they were just chillin, saw you hop out with a smokepole....and hauled @$$ figuring you were about to slay your wifes lover, and preferred not to be a witness. But you have this little play going on in your head that excites you, so you choose to assume they were probably assailants that got thwarted by the presence of cold blue steel.

Outstanding! I hope you dropped an extra benjamin on him, cuz he deserves it. It's good to know that the o/i drive gear is still hanging in there. Here's one (1996 150 EFI) that didn't

I was just curious as to what extent of troubleshooting/repairs he was willing or able to complete on-site. I usually know by the discription of the problem whether it's something that can likely be fixed while hanging off the back of the boat, or whether it's more likely to have to be towed to the shop. No need charging someone an 80.00 service call if you're reasonably sure that it's gonna need more extensive looking into. You can't even locate and repair a fuel leak or do a control cable swap on later model outboards without removing the lower cowling..... and ya can't do it while hanging over the water off the back of the boat. No worrys about "stealing work", was more thinking about farming out some service calls to the dude depending on what he feels comfortable doing while the boat is on a hoist, floating, or sitting in an access parking lot. That is if he wanted to make the trip up here ever so often. Ease up, Ham.

Agreed!

"Prepared"? You're not prepared with that short nosed brass ratchet tucked securly under your jacket or pant leg.... you wanna be prepared? Then carry around a shotgun loaded with 4's I have sat at the range and watched plenty of permit carriers (men and women alike) handle and fire their "protection"..... YIKES! I'm NOT making assumptions on YOUR abilities, but rather the abilities and skill level of the majority.

Good luck Josh. Do you pull flywheels and do gearcase reseal/relubes over the water, or off the tailgate of your truck ? There's only so much quality service you can do on a service call.... right? Removing lower cowlings to do most work on todays outboards is kinda difficult to do over the water unless you can levitate. Just keepin' it real. What's your labor rate and service call charges at this year?

Not at all. I don't talk about it much but I am actually a trained and confident gunsmith and once had a FFL. I am a Sporting Arms enthusiast through and through. I just think that most people who C&C have no business or reason for doing so. Haven't you noticed that 80% of C&C permit carriers are always ANNOUNCING IT at every given opportunity ? What's that about? I also am mildly annoyed that the number of C&C permit owners who have been to DUI court seems to escape the news. The local bar is full of permit carriers. Why Conceal? Open carry if you think you need it, and remove it entirely when you dont. If you're afraid to go somewhere without a "weapon" then you prolly shouldn't go there. That's all.

Sorry man, but Dammit! I'm just trying to make a valid point and you're acting like I'm being a foolish old fart with no street smarts. From my viewpoint that's coming from someone who goes fishing without a reasonably well stocked flybox....but byDog he's got his firearm. Thats some crazy $#!t. No? And don't you dare go all tender on me now, you know me better.