fishinwrench

Take your pick, 40.00 No guarantee on the condition of the hubs. Wrench (simsmarine@sbcglobal.net)

How much illegal activity and game violations did you witness ? Has the place really turned into "Infraction Central" like they keep saying ?

What we need to do is fight it the way the politicians do. Get a landowner who is in the clique to press the charges....then intentionally loose the case. Once a victory is on the books and recorded as such then similar suits will, by statute, have to follow the new order.

That Stealth Spider leader of Troy's is Top Notch. It rolls over very nicely and I'm thinking it has the gumption to outlast the average flyline.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pulling your vehicle directly off the side of the road, and leaving it there temporarily to walk or ride a bicycle down the road, for whatever reason, is not considered trespassing (or infringing on private property) in any Missouri county that I am aware of.

The Sheriff probably won't give you a satisfactory answer, the one who determines whether or not the county believes you comitted a crime is the county's Prosecutor. And from what I've noticed in these cases if the prosecutor is 50 or older and likes to fish, you have a decent chance. BUt if he is a young fella that likes golf...you're screwed. I wish just once someone could beat one of these cases and get it on the records.

Here's the thing: It's quite possible that you were within your rights to be there, but it will cost you a buttload in attorney fees to prove it, if you ever have to. I attempted to challenge a trespassing charge once and I felt very confident about my position, as did the attorney I spoke with, and even the duputy that served me the summons. But at the time a 75.00 fine was alot easier to pay than a 1500.00 to 3000.00 lawyer bill. I wish I would have had the cash to have fought it because I'd love to be fishing there right now.

Obviously. A lot of folks, yourself included I think, are confusing the dam-cam feed with surveillance. IMO it's not. Not really. For one thing, the streaming webcam at the dam isn't MDC's, it is supposably DNR's. At least someone from DNR said it was, but at the same time they also said that the other cams were not thiers. Secondly, Nobody wants to claim the other numerous actual surveillance cams that are set up in the park and campground. WHY ? because they know alot of folks take offense to it, and they are probably hearing about it. So Now, DNR has shut the dam-cam feed, apparently in an attempt to calm the negative feedback they are getting about park surveillance. Nice try. But here's the kicker....If THEY aren't the ones doing the surveillance (remember they originally said the other cams weren't theirs and they had no part of that), then WHY should they shut down the streaming webcam feed ? See? this is some twisted BS

Yeah right. And the Hillbillies at the accesses with spincasters and rotten nylon line are taking all the big smallies. Don't even go there with me Boy

Oh for crying out loud...What has gone unprotected ? Are there not enough fish at Bennett to suit everyone? If so, why do you assume that there won't be in the future without MORE bloodhounds ? Is the place trashed? No, I think it's reasonably tidy, especially for the amount of people that move through it. A few cigarette butts and gum wrappers on the ground and trees full of Globalls...Dude, you're always gonna have that unless each person has their own independant agent, or camera fixed on them all day long. You're always going to have a FEW rule benders regardless, but enough get slapped (even under minimal supervision) to keep things sufficiently in check. So unless (unbeknownst to me) things have gotten completely out of hand I really don't see the need or the desire to go all gustapo looking for trouble, and paying big money to find it, where there really and truly is none. Being watched like you're going to do something illegal constantly is like someone acting like everything you say is a lie. Eventually your just going to quit speaking to that person...right ? Tell me that it doesn't effect your mood when a cop is tailing you. Why ? Are you doing something wrong ? driving badly ? Why aren't you relaxed and enjoying the drive when he's back there ?

Thanks DC, I had a replacement part made at a machine shop. It cost out the nose for no more than it was...but whaddaya gonna do ? Rite-Hite (as a company) lost some points with me bigtime. I delt with CMC for years and I know they wouldn't have blown us off that way, not a chance.

What's really amazing to Me, is that you guys that live in the KC and STL areas come to fish at Bennett, and see horrific crimes committed every time you come down. Yet guys that live close and fish it all the time, only occasionally see someone doing anything mildly wrong. You cigar smokin' city boys either have a really keen eye for that stuff.... or you're bringing it with ya. To give you the benefit of the doubt though, I guess crime could truly be rampant there at the outlet hole and I wouldn't know because I don't fish there. Plus, I'm usually concentrating on fishing instead of concentrating on what other people are doing.

Always ? What's the cost of an in-house game warden? I'd be willing to bet that at least 800-1000.00 is spent in wages and other related expenses... for every 70.00(legitimate)ticket that they write within the park boundarys. In all seriousness, most of the trout park fishers I know are 80% C&R. Occasionally some fish-hungry nimrod might sneak a few extra trout but is it really a serious rampant problem that is causing thousands of dollars worth of losses each month? I don't see the justification of a full time agent, covert undercover spys, or surveillance cams. All that money could be better spent elsewhere IMO

Nope, bad idea. If they eat all the oil, then they'll start farting... And THERE GOES THE OZONE LAYER !

It doesn't have to be seasoned hay, grass clippings and tree litter will work too. They can start cutting my lawn and raking my leaves anytime they want.

Running coyotes with Greyhounds is a big group sport in Oklahoma. They turn the hounds loose on a Yodel dog from 50-100 yards away and then track them via 4WD's or ATV's and CB radios. It's cool to listen to them over the radio, and even cooler to be a part of. Those dogs are awesome...and FAST !

Stillwater flyfishing out of a canoe is a skill in and of itself. The position and angle is never "right", and seldom even managable for me. River flyfishing from a canoe is...ok I'll say it.....Impossible. As for transporting between wadable areas: I have strap loops that hang below the seats on each side, I break the rod down to 2 pcs. and twist wrap the two pieces together with the leader, stick the butt/tip in the loop and rest the ferrule ends on the center thwart.

OT Discovery 169 is the gold standard as far as I'm concerned. The heavier you load her, the more stable she gets. The Canoe that is....not the Wife

Competition for food maybe ? Do the Eastern streams have the numbers of LM, spotted bass, sunfish and Goggleye that our streams do ? I also don't think our streams have the volume % of deep Wintering holes and sanctuarys that the Eastern rivers do.

Racoon. Happens all the time.

Double digits ? that's a tough call, but Truman has plenty in the 4-6+ range, and if that doesn't excite you then you've been at it longer than I have.

Excellent trip report Al. Experiences like that are what cause guys to pull up stakes and move out West.

Not sure about TR, but in Lake of the Ozarks they are way up in the creeks spawning right now....by the thousands ! I think they seriously need to be thinned out, their numbers in this lake are rediculis and the dang things live FOREVER.

IMO the circumstances where a sink-tip is truly useful are pretty rare on Mo. streams and rivers. Carrying a few Rio sinking leaders (specifically the 7ft-5ips and 3ips) might be a better alternative. It is for Me. The 3ips is excellent (perfect) for keeping clousers deep.

That was my exact thought when I saw who the originator of this topic was. If you're wanting to spend less than a new one there are some fine used ones out there.