Don't give up delta kid, I fished table rock for many years, working and trying to figure things out on my own, long before I new about this forum, keep fishing hard, read these guys post, ask questions & tell these guys what you learn and didn't learn. It can get frustrating but every day you go out and have little luck you learn more about what doesn't work, then when it does work out it is even more rewarding. Also I see you are fromBelle Vista, I know of a couple fisherman from down in that area, only met one, but if all indications Are the same of that individual as the other fisherman from down there you have a heck of a bunch of good guys that will help you out, just get to know them a bit. Good luck to you & Good Fishin!!