Ive been using pfluegar presidents for years on my spinning gear and have had no complaints.....They are great for the money, the supremes are a nice step up. I have had a few saharas, and have had issues with the bail springs on more than one even though i usually close the bail manually anyhow. My brother Has an Orra (sx i think)....80$ range, which has been a good real for him so far. Im a big believer in the braid/fluoro leader for heavier applications, can cast well, knot is strong and easy (alberto knot is what i use) and can feel everything. Plus, it lasts for at least a few years on your spool. On my lighter spinning gear, i use 4lb mono and respool often.