Old plug

YES it sure can be frustrating. I ran into a condition a little while back I have never seen before. I have been fishing in one area and wrench has been fishing in another as usual. We were both fishing much the the same way. These two ares are only a couple miles apart. The fish in his area shut down the bite between 5 and 5:30 pm. In my area they never even started even got stated till 6pm or later. I really cannot find a reason for that but it is very interesting Information.

I have seen that equipment. They got at least two of them and I imagine more. They are Jon Boats with two operators in there and some high resolution sonar. We had two here looking for the kid that jumped out of the patrol boat. I think they. are based in Jeff City. They got out there first afternoon and I thought they were going to get swamped just coming up from Coffmen's beach. They stopped at dark and were out there very early the next morning.

They do not like it but those of us who fish for them at times do. They get there teeth stuck in unraveled nylon rope when they bite it.

I found something saying they presumed he drowned in 180 ft of water have they ever failed to recover a body.??? This drowning here was if I recall around 90 ft and it took them 11/2 days with sounding devises in two boats to find him.

I do not claim t o be better than anyone else. You said that not me. But you claim it is some kind. of miracle. And that I KNOW it is not. Caught hundreds of bass means nothing how many topped 5 lbs out of that on the ned rig.

I cannot find anything have they ever said they found him.

I do not use hate it. It has its place. I was using that on streams many many years ago. I just do not buy the BS it is the answer to everything.

I am thinking they are going to go out wrench very shortly. I was fishing mine and the neighbors docks this morning while I was watering. the ones I was catching at mid depths have moved. those that were at mid depths have moved down to 20ft. around here. The bottom line is it was certainly not the rave they are talking about right.

I think table rock is aging just like LOZ did. Summer people for the most part could care less what damage they do.

I think they were Gar as well. They run in a herd like that. Throw them a rope lure and you can have a ball with them.

Last singer I can ever remember hearing was Tina Turner. that was in the days just before her and Ike became famous.they used to play in a place in St louis I went in. I have to say you never have to hear her singing you can feel it.

your right ness although i never heard either of them sing.

REDSOZ----That was not the problem with these two I and my neighbor next said hi to them and he ask them if they were catching anything. They just totally disregarded both of us as they fished thru. our docks. If I am on the dock I deliberately say. hi to any fisherman that comes by because I do not want them to think I am against their fishing there. I know a lot of them become uncomfortable when they see a owner down there. And i want then to realize they are welcome. Its not about what the boat and tackle were its about the superior attitude it imparts to some of these people.

Only about some people. Maybe if you live to be 75 yrs old you might be judgmental as well. Of course you got a lot of walking thru life yet to do. Nope have no idea where they fished and could care less. I only fish about 2 hrs a day and never more than 2 miles from my house.

she was a folk singer from the Vietnam war period. She is dead

I feel like a lot of these fishermen I see in the very expensive boats are just trying to make a social statement. If your. a guide or something there is a valid statement. The other afternoon a couple guys came by in a sparkle boat.They was really expert fisherman to you could tell from from the white 7 ft rods and expensive reel 2 grafts and god knows what else in there. About 11/2 hours later they were fishing a point that I fish a lot. They really was looking good out there in that fine boat. Yes sir they were back about a 100 ft casting to some docks on that point. Believe me they worked that brush like pros. I never seen them catch a fish. For all the big boat and all the equipment the boat was out of position, the time was wrong time to be there and the lures they were throwing were the wrong ones. I know the correct variables were. I been fishing that spot a week almost very successfully. So what did all that money get them except a false idea that they were just better and above others. But i enjoyed watching it.

I think its bot good. I think they should try to learn for themselves.

Well I never thought there were many on here in here over 70. I can remember plain black port rind used on small jigs alone. I can remember the days when fisherman were there to have a good time not look and act smug. I can never remember in the old days any fisherman giving out information at the level I see on here. Some on here want nothing more than to be told where to go, and what to use. I would not feel I accomplished anything fishing by someone else's specific instruction. The finding of the fish is my job. Then if the information does bot pan out some will blame blame who ever gave you the info for any failure they might have have.

That pilot is going to to loose it I have seen him land and take off again in mill creek cove when ther were boats on the water. They are very irresponsible. buzzing around here without any consideration for safety of his passengers and residents. He far too low to really recover in some emergency. I have seen him fly up a hill at roof top level. I will predict he stuffs that thing into a house.

i think it might be a good think for some of us older fellas. so I will be giving it a a try. I think there are situations It might come in handi but I doubt it can hold a candle to my favorite polamar.

If it ever did it would be pure hap hazard luck.

Are you implying that I would catch more bass 15" and larger using a dinky little jig.

Quill ack and Wrench------I posted this once before lets see if it disappears again. What I seen was there was a post about this Ned refining it and developing it into what it was. B S. people have been messing with doing that sort of thing before I was born every fisherman of any experience has probably messed with the kind of thing they were claiming was some new wonder. Look I lived through the frenetical/fantasy period of the Big O. Myself. I have never owned one much less rented one like some guys were doing. But I imagine it does catch fish, but not as well as was claimed. All fishermen tend to be gullible and can be sold a bill of goods pretty easy at times. It is natural I believe because were always on a quest.

Mitch my thing with this whole deal is putting his name on it like he invented it. That would embarrass me to do something like that.

sweating the details of what?????? How to market it ??????