Phil Lilley

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PacMan - new color.

# of browns - encouraging. Thanks

What was the rainbow to brown ratio?

Babler should chime in... he said yesterday was also brutal fishing conditions and from what I saw from my back window, straight north wind and rolling waves meant getting out would be a chore to say the least. Tony Weldele brought in a client who caught a nice rainbow. Said he caught it on a sculpin jig, no float (I think) and I assume he caught it above Fall Creek. Regardless, very nice catch especially in those conditions.

One of our agents lives very close to the lower lake... I bet he's watching and will write some tickets.

by Jim Foster First of all thanks to Lilleys Landing for a great time! We fished up at the dam Sunday the 18th for a few hours before it got dark.I am a first time fly fisherman, we used scuds and midges, no luck for me my buddy caught two, we seen many trout. Water running but slow. Lots of fly fisherman around the outlets catching a few. Fished Monday 19th after rain headed upstream in boat to fall creek. No water running we caught many fish on a assortment of lures,little cleos, gold spoons,trout magnet.fished off dock monday night no luck. Tuesday 20th back in boat and back up to Fall creek. Fishing slow till water running then caught a few on white salmon eggs, but water did not last long fishing slowed again caught a few but mostly small rainbows. I will be back since the big ones evaded us, we will be back to catch them on another day.

The local bass club may have one.

Good stuff. Bought my pressure cooker today. Smoking a turkey so I'll throw on some suckers and trout I caught the other day and then try the p.c.. Should be fun experimenting.

Yea June is early for salmon. You might have to go to a port and so out and troll for salmon, if they're in the area. Homer would be the best place. Denali - I have a good friend who moved to Talkeetna and started a guide service. Goes up in to the Denali area. He's from St Louis. Peter Matheisen. http://www.alaskawildernessriverfishingguides.com is his site.

Cause trout aren't that smart...

A friend at church says he's been canning... fish, venison, other stuff. I've never done it but am going to try. Starting with trout. Anyone have any home recipes?

When scuds died they turn orange.

Everybody has had personal experiences going and fishing AK - I'll tell mine. My first trip was to the Kenai River in 2005. Stayed in Soldotna and rented rafts. Waded and floated the Kenai in August. Missed the silver run but caught dollies, rainbows and red sockeye. It was pretty, river was nice, crowds were fair to bad. It was ok but for the money I spent I was disappointed. A friend bought a camp on the Naknek River in 2006. I've been going to his place ever since (except 2012). Fishing wise- you can't beat it. His place isn't the ritz - but neither are his rates. Lots of people here on the forum have gone to Naknek River Camp. If you go to the AK forum and go back over the years, you'll see some of my postings and picks. I've been a few other places but call Naknek home.

Absolutely crazy. No reason that I can think of. It's terrible for people who want to wade. Wish I have an answer for ya.

Agreed!

Invision is supposed to be upgrading and fixing some things... that might be it.

Cold, crisp mornings usually means a little generation here on Taneycomo and that's been the case. They've been running about one unit for a couple of hours starting at daylight, then off the rest of the day. BUT last weekend they ran water 24 hours a day both Saturday and Sunday, about one unit, and today they've started the same, scheduling generation all day and into the night. Flow varies from a half unit to one-and-a-half units. This might be a sign to what they will do this weekend. SPA will post their schedule later today online. We've had some pretty windless days the last couple of days making catching tough. But now we have flow, current is almost as good as wind. When I say tough, it's not impossible, just slower. Bait fishing is ok as long as you're fishing fairly deep water, say over 6 feet deep. A fly or jig under an indicator can be slow when the water's surface is slick. Yesterday was one of those days. No generation, hardly a breath of wind and high sun, usually that's the kiss of death when fishing. But Rolan and I managed quite a few rainbows, fishing from 9 am to 1 pm. We started below Lookout Island and worked middle to shallow side of the lake all the way to Fall Creek and we fished with scuds only. We both used 6x fluorocarbon tippet and fished a fly Rolan has made famous, at least in my world. No not peppy, but a #14 mink. He usually uses a 3769 TMC hook, 7 wraps of .015 lead wire and a dubbing he makes, mixing mink fur with brown antron. He uses either mink or peppy 99% of the time when he's using scuds and one of the other catches trout. He uses the dubbing sparingly, leaving the ends of the fibers sticking out, no trimming. This is a mink scud but tied on a 200R TMC hook I was using a palsa and Rolan a float, we set our depth about 3-4 feet deep and worked water sometimes as shallow as a foot and as deep as 3 feet. Rolan likes to work his scud more than I. He almost swims it, moving it quite a lot over the bottom. I leave mine for a count of 8, then twitch it every 5 seconds or so. Either way, we both caught the same number of trout. One thing, again, for sure. We did have a few times when the wind would kick up and we'd get a chop on the surface. Rolan was quick to point out that the catching really turned on when the chop started. We caught several nice rainbows (pics) but most were small, less than 13 inches. One of the largest rainbows came out of less than a foot of water, up on the flat at the Narrows. Most people only fishing the channel there. I like to throw up in the shallow water a lot. Presenting the scud swimming isn't a new technique. I want the fly to look like it's sitting on the bottom, then moving across the bottom like it's swimming, then lying back down. That's why we use longer tippet from the indicator down, setting it deeper than the water we're fishing. If the indicator is set at about the same depth as the water, the fly would just hop straight up when worked and back down. That's not what scuds do. Want the fly to look and act like a real bug. The strikes are either subtle (the indicator just vibrates) or they pick the scud up and move with it (indicator starts to move sideways). Either way, set the hook quickly. Today the water is running, like I said. I went out fishing about noon and ran up to Lookout where Rolan and I started yesterday. I tied on a tan scud, 200R hook #10, below the #14 mink scud I had on from yesterday. Set the depth at 3.5 feet and started drifting down the west bank, throwing out towards the middle. Lite tan scud tied on a 200R TMC Hook Didn't boat a trout till just past the tennis court but right there they were loaded and hungry. There's a shallow place that jets out. I held the boat there and caught several before trolling out a ways and getting by the shallow spot. It took 70 minutes to drift just past the Narrow Flats and I boated 12 rainbows. Headed back up to make the drift again, this time using a midge. I tied on a primrose & pearl #16 zebra midge under a palsa 12 inches and started drifting and fishing. The wind picked up at times so I did better up top. But the place where I'd done so well with the scuds, I didn't hook a fish. I missed more using the zebra too, probably smaller hook. When I got to the end of the flat, I'd boated 13 rainbows. One thing, the average scud rainbows were noticeably bigger than the zebra trout. Below Fall Creek, catching has been good too, drifting or still fishing, depending on generation. The water has been running very slow when it is running so use just a small amount of weight if drifting something on the bottom, like bait. You need to keep it on the bottom but not so much you're getting snagged up or can't feel the bite because your weight is too big. I've heard yellow and chartreuse has been the colors to use when drifting power eggs or paste. I've also talked to people fishing off the dock who have done well with night crawlers and white Gulp eggs.

navery - MDC manages Taneycomo as if there is no natural reproduction here. That's not to say there is no successful spawn but no little it does figure into their management plan. There may be in some of the feeder creeks but not in the lake. Some people don't like put and take lakes which Taney is and that's ok... fortunately there are a lot that do!

Welcome. We need more Taneycomo fly fishermen!

Sorry- not sure how I missed the other topic. An agent sent me this on the 7th. Didn't know it was public knowledge. Just shows I don't read everything here...

Could become big game in Missouri if they keep showing up. Taken outside of Branson. Provided my MDC to me personally.

You can narrow it down a bit but it's generally a very wide angle camera. It doesn't do real well when shooting distances. But you can hold it real close to something or someone and get a good shot. Play around with it, different settings and see what it'll do. I haven't messed around the with the settings enough to tell you what you'd like. Have fun with it!

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http://www.ozarkanglers.com/lake-taneycomo/files/2012/11/Taneycomo.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="267" /> Phil Lilley: Water has been off for the of the week this week but running today (Saturday) and that's been the pattern for several weeks. Why? I have no idea. Water temperature is holding about 48 degrees and water quality seems to be very good for this time of year. I got out and fished a couple of days below the dam, wading and fishing the rebar area. This is a fast water chute about 800 yards below the cable where the channel changes from the north to south bank. At first appearance, the water in the chute appears to be shallow but if you look closely there are pockets of deeper water which are holding big trout. Plus all through the chute there are trout holding, they're just hard to see. Drift a bug through this area and you'll find out what's there. I fished several styles of scuds in the faster water and caught quite a few rainbows. I use weighted scuds, #12 in tan, gray and brown mainly. Caught fish on a ultra thin San Juan in red or white too. I try not to use any extra weight except for the weight of the flies. When using a San Juan, I'll use the scud to weight it down. Making long drifts is the best way to maximize your drifts. Fished the narrows below rebar too and did well. Smaller scuds and zebra midges. If there's a wind and chop on the water, I used a #18 light colored soft hackle and caught rainbows and a few small browns stripping lower on the flat. Got out again a couple of evenings this week, no generation, and fished the east gravel bank above Fall Creek and below the narrows using a rusty or primrose & pearl #16 zebra midge under a palsa 16 inches. The rainbows are really on this bank especially in the evenings feeding on midges. Catching was almost non stop both evenings I went. Most of the rainbows were between 11 and 13 inches but we had several about 15 inches. Lots of fun! Using 6x fluorocarbon tippet. Darin Schildknecht: The Southwestern Power Administration has not really been on a predictable schedule the last week or so. Some days the power generators are off all day, some days they are on all day, and sometimes on for a little bit and then off for a while in the same day. Yesterday it was on for three hours and then off for the rest of the day, today it is supposed to be on in the morning and off in the afternoon then back on in the evening. Despite all of that the fishing has been good. I was out for most of the day yesterday with three other guys and we all caught fish. Early in the morning, the water was off, we did great on olive with copper head 1/256oz micro jig under a float set about four to five feet. The set up for these is very easy. On a spinning rod, a short section of two pound fluorocarbon is a must off of the main line with a float that has enough weight that you will be able to cast. On the fly rod it is similar only with a small Palsa or similar stick on indicator also set about four to five feet deep. 6x fluorocarbon tippet is also must to get bit. After we caught some fish on that we wanted to try something different so we changed to an Oregon Cheese or Pink Lady Miracle Fly. We fished these the same way and also did very well. This was all above Fall Creek out in front of Lookout. Below Fall Creek, the bottom boundary of the trophy area, night crawlers is the best live bait along with Berkley's Gulp and Paste powerbait. Our water is a little merky now so you can get away with using 4-pound line when using live bait. When generating, drift bait on the bottom using a drift rig. Also this week Trout Magnets in Pink, Cotton Candy, Salmon Fix, Sassy, or Bison under and EZ Float. These are fished under a float with a two to three foot section of Phantom 7x or 6x tippet.