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OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
Take out at the Y bridge ramp.... where do we cookout and eat? -
OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
I can haul a grill. -
OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
I'm still planning on it. Trailering a jon boat -
We look forward to hearing how you do with the slam. Hard to believe the forum has been around for almost 20 years.... I remember when I started my first "forum", before OAF. It was a basic text thread style board with no controls, no membership and very hard to delete posts. I had all kinds of problems with a few people just wanting to cause trouble. First members - @Brian Wise @Brian Sloss @Brian K. Shaffer @Seth @Rusty @Danoinark @Leonard Keeney @jOrOb @John Smoot @Wayne SW/MO @Jeremy Hunt @Troutbum @Gabe Cross @Sam Potter @3weight @David Carlile @Jcvistait @hunter@heart @rainbow @Steve Smith @Snow Fly @mhall02 other notibles @MoCarp @Rolan Duffield @duckydoty @Bill Babler @jjtroutbum @2sheds @vernon @Gavin all joined in the first month.
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Jeremy Hunt sent a pic of a nice brown - said there's been shad come through their turbines a week now.
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Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, September 1
Phil Lilley replied to Phil Lilley's topic in Upper Lake Taneycomo
yeah you're going to have fun. -
Lilley's Lake Taneycomo fishing report, September 1
Phil Lilley posted a article in Taneycomo fishing reports
Our generation schedule here on Lake Taneycomo has been almost exactly the same every day for the month of August with very few exceptions. The water is off every morning, while generation starts about 1 p.m. continuing until dark or after. The flow is dictated by how hot it is on that day, meaning how much generation is needed to produce electricity. So that being said, as fall temperatures arrive, we should see slower flows in the afternoon. But I don't think the pattern of no generation in the mornings will change. Our lake temperature is about 53 degrees while the dissolved oxygen content has plummeted to two parts per million (raw water coming through the turbines.) This is normal for this time of year. Liquid oxygen is injected into the turbines during generation, bringing the DO levels up to five ppm-plus. This will continue until Table Rock "turns over" later in December. While fishing Friday morning, I took water readings just above the Narrows in the trophy area and found the DO to be five ppm and the temperature 55 degrees. I also found the trout I caught very strong and active. There are reports that good-sized brown trout have arrived at the hatchery outlets below the dam. This brown trout run should continue through the month of October, and with low lake levels in the system, we should see a lot of down water for ideal fly fishing conditions through the run this year. Very good catches of browns and rainbows have been reported on stripping sculpin flies, wooly buggers, cracklebacks and soft hackles, as well as midges and scuds. Egg flies should start showing up on the top of our lists for good flies to use later in September. For night fly fishing, stripping a PMS, sculpins, leaches and other streamers should be hot for weeks to come. Also use a glow indicator and a black mega worm or a black 1/50th ounce jig under it. In and out of the trophy area, when the water is off, we're using a mop fly or mega worm in white, cream and peach under a float and good catching some nice browns as well as rainbows. Also, the 50th-ounce black jig is out-producing most other colors of jigs, even in still, clear conditions. The Zebra Midge is working most of the time under a float. Good colors are black with red rib, red flash with red rib and root beer with black rib, all with a black tungsten head. But there's a midge that's doing very well and that's the "snow cone" midge. It's a white head and fished with black/red rib or black with gold rib. Use size, but #18 to #20 in still condition and #14 to #16 if there's a chop. Use 7x fluorocarbon tippet in most conditions, but if the water is running you can go to 6x. Scuds are working fair when the water is off and good with it running. The Provo rig is our guides' choice to drift flies. Fish an egg and a scud combo with the scud on the bottom. We usually get a fair topwater bite in the fall, and after a very good cicada bite in June, I thought this year our trout would be looking up more than past years. I believe I’m right! We’re seeing a lot of activity on top lately, along the banks and out in the middle of the lake. And we’re also a good number of takes using hoppers, cicadas, beetles, ants and other terrestrial flies. This bite should continue through October. You can also drift a scud using a spin cast. I just tie the fly at the end of the line and add a split shot 18 inches above it. The size of the split shot depends on how much water is running. Use two- or four-pound line. And use a #14 to #18 size scud. Drifting below the trophy area has been pretty good lately, especially down at Monkey Island. I've found a good number of rainbows down there eager to eat. I've used both Power Eggs (pink) and night crawlers and have done exceptionally well when the water is running. I've also used minnows up in the area of the resort and caught some nice rainbows. Use four-pound line. Our guides have been catching big trout on jerk baits early and late in the day. They are starting before daylight most mornings and the good bite ends before 7 a.m. Starting about 5 p.m., the bite is good along any bluff bank and continues well into the night. Look at the colors in this brown Darren Sadler caught the other day. Amazing! -
Our generation schedule here on Lake Taneycomo has been almost exactly the same every day for the month of August with very few exceptions. The water is off every morning, while generation starts about 1 p.m. continuing until dark or after. The flow is dictated by how hot it is on that day, meaning how much generation is needed to produce electricity. So that being said, as fall temperatures arrive, we should see slower flows in the afternoon. But I don't think the pattern of no generation in the mornings will change. Our lake temperature is about 53 degrees while the dissolved oxygen content has plummeted to two parts per million (raw water coming through the turbines.) This is normal for this time of year. Liquid oxygen is injected into the turbines during generation, bringing the DO levels up to five ppm-plus. This will continue until Table Rock "turns over" later in December. While fishing Friday morning, I took water readings just above the Narrows in the trophy area and found the DO to be five ppm and the temperature 55 degrees. I also found the trout I caught very strong and active. There are reports that good-sized brown trout have arrived at the hatchery outlets below the dam. This brown trout run should continue through the month of October, and with low lake levels in the system, we should see a lot of down water for ideal fly fishing conditions through the run this year. Very good catches of browns and rainbows have been reported on stripping sculpin flies, wooly buggers, cracklebacks and soft hackles, as well as midges and scuds. Egg flies should start showing up on the top of our lists for good flies to use later in September. For night fly fishing, stripping a PMS, sculpins, leaches and other streamers should be hot for weeks to come. Also use a glow indicator and a black mega worm or a black 1/50th ounce jig under it. In and out of the trophy area, when the water is off, we're using a mop fly or mega worm in white, cream and peach under a float and good catching some nice browns as well as rainbows. Also, the 50th-ounce black jig is out-producing most other colors of jigs, even in still, clear conditions. The Zebra Midge is working most of the time under a float. Good colors are black with red rib, red flash with red rib and root beer with black rib, all with a black tungsten head. But there's a midge that's doing very well and that's the "snow cone" midge. It's a white head and fished with black/red rib or black with gold rib. Use size, but #18 to #20 in still condition and #14 to #16 if there's a chop. Use 7x fluorocarbon tippet in most conditions, but if the water is running you can go to 6x. Scuds are working fair when the water is off and good with it running. The Provo rig is our guides' choice to drift flies. Fish an egg and a scud combo with the scud on the bottom. We usually get a fair topwater bite in the fall, and after a very good cicada bite in June, I thought this year our trout would be looking up more than past years. I believe I’m right! We’re seeing a lot of activity on top lately, along the banks and out in the middle of the lake. And we’re also a good number of takes using hoppers, cicadas, beetles, ants and other terrestrial flies. This bite should continue through October. You can also drift a scud using a spin cast. I just tie the fly at the end of the line and add a split shot 18 inches above it. The size of the split shot depends on how much water is running. Use two- or four-pound line. And use a #14 to #18 size scud. Drifting below the trophy area has been pretty good lately, especially down at Monkey Island. I've found a good number of rainbows down there eager to eat. I've used both Power Eggs (pink) and night crawlers and have done exceptionally well when the water is running. I've also used minnows up in the area of the resort and caught some nice rainbows. Use four-pound line. Our guides have been catching big trout on jerk baits early and late in the day. They are starting before daylight most mornings and the good bite ends before 7 a.m. Starting about 5 p.m., the bite is good along any bluff bank and continues well into the night. Look at the colors in this brown Darren Sadler caught the other day. Amazing! View full article
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Test out repellents? I'm not going to do anything of the kind... once is enough. Got to get some permethrin.
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Jigfest 2024 White River
Phil Lilley replied to Daryk Campbell Sr's topic in General Angling Discussion
Miles and Michelle stayed with us last night... they told me you guys booked the cabin. I'll go if my schedule allows. -
The article doesn't say but I wonder if deet or something keeps them from biting...
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/08/13/oak-leaf-itch-mites-cicadas/74780235007/ After walking through our property last week (in the woods), the next morning I had what I thought was poison ivy on my feet, although I couldn't figure out how because I had tennis shoes on. The next day it had moved up to my thighs. Then I had it all over. I get PI but not like this... and the way it was spreading wasn't typical for ivy. Now I just have small scabs and it's all but healed. Then my daughter sent me this article! I didn't have PI - I'm sure it was mites. My wife got them too, not as bad. Greg, who walked most of the places we went didn't get any. Anyone else encounter these mites?
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I don't think we're going to charge any more for barbless...
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That's a problem... I can't get them completely down and I know of ppl who have gotten tickets because of a single stran of wool.
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We're coming out with a barbless version of our jigs shortly. I want to get down there and try them out.
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Did you fish any of the barbless areas? Or don't they still have barbless areas on the NF?
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OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
I am planning on floating. Using a jon boat. -
I see guides catching fish on night crawlers off points... but I bet that's about it. But I don't fish for bass...
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Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and strength. And love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus said these were the greatest commandments. Even if you're not "religious", it's not a bad place to start. Even if you don't believe in a god, you still have to recognize creation, life and be thankful in some way. And through that lens, we are to see that man is part of that creation, a very special part. The Word says we are created in His image. I'm not smart enough to parse that out... but compared to the rest of creation, humans are set completely apart, different. So I guess what I'm saying is that if we have a reverence for the Creator and we recognize our fellow man as His special creation, then we should treat our neighbor as such.
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OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
Would a jon boat be too big for this section of river? -
OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
I changed the title. Dan, you might edit the first post to include any details about the float, to date, so that ppl don't have to search for specifics. Appreciate you organizing it. I'm hoping to go... I need to find a suitable water vessel. -
OAF group float - James River Sept 21... Who is Going?!?
Phil Lilley replied to dan hufferd's topic in James River
Sept 21, Saturday? -
He already did
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Crickets..... I hope Jayhawks!
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We’ve had private discussions about this. I don’t use a hammer when driving home my worldview. Again, I won’t argue them online. I show my worldview in how I live, how I treat ppl. As far as being a great human…. I’m not. I have many faults.
