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tjm

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  1. Oh I'm sure that CWD as we know it is a new expression of prion disease, almost certainly was the result of confining deer with sheep back in the mid '60s. Sheep and goats are Old World domestic animals and Scrapie an Old World disease as is the genetic/familial form of CJD. CWD was also almost certainly spread by moving (perhaps illegally) confined cervids from state to state for the purpose of farming antlers. But that's all in the past and we are beyond any stopping of the spread of it. Sporadic, as used in the hunter incidents indicate that to the experts there is no clear link between the deer and the CJD, the form of CJD from an animal is ‘variant CJD,’. A few years ago (a report ca 2015 and another case back in Aug 1997) there was some speculation that a patient had contracted CJD from eating squirrel brains, but as far as I am aware no squirrels have as yet been discovered with prion disease. If prions remain indefinitely in the earth, and have been shown to be taken up in some plants, what is to keep us from contracting prion disease from eating vegetables? Perhaps the 87% of all CJD cases that are listed as "sporadic" all have their origins in carrots or broccoli? At this time any connection between CJD and any animal other than cows with BSE is at best speculative. Magazines like Field and Stream or Popular Mechanics (reported the squirrel case) publish these things simply to sell their product, on the internet these articles would be "click bait". As top predators though we must have been designed to eat animals and logically are more apt too prion infection from vegetables, eh? No more lettuce for me.
  2. I tried multiple crawdad patterns back when I subscribed to 6 or 10 fly tying/fishing magazines and they each had a few crawdad patterns each year, very little success so I bought a few that looked especially nice and still no luck; I've done best in crawdad water with either conehead Woolly Buggers or Calcasieu Pig Boats fished kinda like jigs. This one interests me because none of the ones I tried in the past were on a jig hook and none used the pine squirrel strips. It might be interesting to add some silicon feelers at the bend.
  3. I looked for tri lakes shirt with BilletHead on it but never saw it. Son wanted to see the SMB seminars and I sat through the first one but had heard enough marketing talk (I spaced out or blinked or something and missed the actual "how to"; but got a logo cap when he asked me what fly to use and I told him my personal favorite, which must have been on his list) and I hung out on the tying floor through the afternoon deal. We'd had to have gone outside to visit if we had met; no one could hear over the almost constant and extremely loud commentary. A couple of hours at Bennett Spgs on the way home made me recall why I don't ever go there. That was a skunk too. A good few tyers and a few good tyers. I did tell my son as we went in that after all the bass and salt flies we saw at the Sowbug there would be more trout flies at that meet and there were.
  4. that's what I guessed, I like orange one, but probably won't get around to tying any. I saw a Bonker Zonker demostrated at Clinton the other week that he said was a great sculpin imitation that he used for bass. Done Clouser style with a barred zonker strip, the guy seem surprised when I suggested it'd be good trout bait. A nice little fly but I'll probably not tie many of then either.
  5. What keeps the claws spread?
  6. Drunks not kids, kids can't get drunk, it's against the laws. must why the jury ruled the way they did, they couldn't figure out the video Mui is a foreign guy in that he was born in Europe, but he went to high school and college in Minnesota, so maybe not as foreign as some voters.
  7. Both articles seem to be pretty much F&S back ground filler for pages of advertising. CWD is a real thing, it ain't going away and at this point there is no real hope of controlling it's spread by birds and scavengers, nor any real way of destroying the prions, they withstand heat, freezing, drying, all normal chemical sterilization, are absorbed into dirt and uptaken by plants, stay intact through all digestive processes and remain infectious for very long times. Prions are remarkably similar between animals and that is what allows transmission to cross species. So it is conceivable that a scavenger bird could eat the brain or spine of an infected dead animal (deer, cow, sheep, or human) fly some random distance, defecate and the prions thus transported could be absorbed into the dirt, be taken up by a plant that is eaten by an animal of whatever species and infect that animal; who would then spread the prion disease through yet another animal population. So, what all these studies have shown is that we never know what we don't know, leaving open the need for endless studies and the possibility that prions have always been a part of life since the beginning and that we were simply unaware of them until recently. Even within my lifetime people are dying from "new" diseases or causes whom a hundred years ago would have just died from some unknown cause, so how are we to know that in any given year or decade of history, say for example the middle ages or biblical time that 1% (or 30%) of all human deaths weren't caused by prions? It's certainly a "first world problem" because if we had to devote 99% of our time and energy to survival, prions would not interest us at all.
  8. Should have been all native to Mo fish or they should have titled it something else
  9. Humans have been herding and handling sheep with Scrapie for at least a few hundred years, I don't think I ever heard of a shepherd with CJD.
  10. Didn't say that they had investigated and rule out cannibalism. I'm not scientist enough to distinguish between CJD and Kuru.
  11. Glyphosate- once and done ... might not want the kid to do it though
  12. One hot summer day in '67 or '68, I had seven flats in the same day with almost new tires, one spare and a lot of hot patches, and hand pumping. Love that chert. 75 mile trip took several hours longer than it should have. Yes they make the tires much better these days and in comparison to wages they are cheaper too. I don't even own a tire pump nor a patching clamp anymore.
  13. USGS shows that historically WB ranged up the major tributaries of the Mississippi river a couple hundred miles give or take and yellow bass did too but not as far maybe fifty miles or so. As of 1900 they show no WB in most of the Ozark Plateau area, although they do show that they should be where I've never seen them. They were apparently introduced to the White River reservoirs. It's commonly said that they come up rivers/creeks from the reservoirs but that they can't pass low head dams such as on Shoal Creek or Elk River unless in flood. So although they may have been in every creek at some point of time it seems that they have never lived there. also explains why I've never seen one. FWS says "White bass are a member of the temperate bass family and are a migratory pelagic (open-water) fish"; a strange description given that 'pelagic' usually refers to the oceans, but I take it they mean "far from the banks". The migratory part explains why they may ascend a stream but never remain there. You folks that fish in the Miss. R. coridor should have both WB and YB, and the YB can be distinguished by the dorsal fins being joined.
  14. did I wonder if all the warmwater stocking doesn't take place within St Louis or in private ponds.
  15. Did you recognize them after all that time? That was the August that I got caught horseback in a blinding snow squall at the foot of the Pequop mountain and thought I'd freeze to death, while a few miles away on the other side of a ridge all the other hands never saw any change in the bright hot day. Didn't believe me when I was 2 hours late at the meeting spot with no cows. But I really don't really recall hearing much about Woodstock until about a year later after I was in the navy and around younger guys that followed the bands that played there.
  16. It's not just adaptation to the modified water? I have a question about these fish that I've never seen in the water, it appears that they spend most of their lives in the reservoirs, only entering the streams to spawn; so my questions are where did these fish live before the reservoirs were built? are they so weak that they can't work up a riffle or so big that they need a few feet of water to cover their gills? were they introduced to the reservoirs long ago?
  17. Did it say there that these hatchery produced fish outnumber wild bred fish on most waters or that most Mo. waters are stocked with these fish? Do they maintain a list of what waters are stocked with what fish? Is C&R common for paddlefish or pallid sturgeon?
  18. It was just another day on the ranch, probably branding or moving cattle, but Woodstock didn't cause much of a stir at the time. If I'd known ahead of time how it would turn out, I might have gone to see the elephant.
  19. So, if you had a contained system like a very large aquarium and did actually catch and release for instance a hundred fish all apparently unharmed, except for some mark for future identification; then observed them over a several days and 15 of those fish died hours or days after release while all the uncaught fish did not die, you would attribute those dead fish to coincidence? This is how those studies work, they start with a known number and end with a known number and are compared to a control group of a similar size. Not perfect information gathering but not just WAG either. I've read about dozen such studies over the past 50 years and some were done better than others, but the ones with better controls and more stringent protocols were often the ones that showed higher mortality. Of course studies done by competent fish handlers in controlled conditions can only lead to an estimate of what actually happens with clumsy or uncaring handling. My feeling is that if fish biologists and hatchery workers find 10% delayed mortality then the actual recreational mortality might be as high as 30% simply because so many people don't release enough fish to ever become skilled at it or simply have to keep the fish out of water and drop it in the dirt 3-4 times to get that image of it. Those fish that die from handling rarely float and usually get consumed by crawdads or turtles so that keeps them out of sight and out of mind. If most of the fish you pursue are stocked you must be fishing only the Trout Parks. Trout is the only stocked species of fish that I have caught in my life time. And not even all of those were stocked, some were naturalized wild things. Even given a 5% mortality of C&R, when 50 anglers per day float the same stretch of stream and each catch and release 10 bass and they do this 2-3 days per week for 3-4 months per year; we are looking at possibly 3-5000 dead bass per summer on that stretch of creek. It's likely though that many of those fish were caught and released multiple times per day and thus the percentage of mortality increased but fewer fish harmed. And of course many kayakers will only catch 1-2 fish on a given day but then there are guys right behind them that are catching 50-100. And of course some of those fish would have died of natural causes anyway, the heron stalks.
  20. Yes the box does get some people to test that would not do the scope, and that is good. Anything that catches the problem prior to needing the surgery that ends with a bag. Colostomy? In my case there is a family history that prompted my first check and that found a couple of benign polyps and resulted in a tattoo and a return visit and periodic repeats since. My last go round ('21) and the one my wife did last month, required a much smaller drink and a shorter prep time than previously. Didn't taste as awful either. I'm not sure how to determine that. Best wait til the next day, I guess.
  21. go lyghtly with such talk The box, according to the quacks specialists that I've talked to, just lets them know that you need the scope done right now, or that they can wait a while. They strongly suggested just do the thing and get it over with. I'm on a three year rota with three behind me and one due soon. I wasn't drunk as long after the procedure with the last go round as I was with the first, used a different type of anesthesia, that first time they did both ends and I was giddy for several hours afterwards.
  22. Wonder who would have been charged if the situation was reversed and the drunks were middle aged men assaulting a young guy who used a knife?
  23. And the mob members go free as heroes. Blind Justice. He'd have been better off pleading temporary insanity than self defense.
  24. Looks like an attempt by the prosecutors to remove a juror they perceive as hostile. Actually an alternate juror, and perhaps they didn't expect the judge to agree to dismiss the juror, it was a block to appeal on that basis. CYA action. Would you use that knife to cut bacon or spread butter with after it was bloodied? I guess the jury shouldn't be concerned with things done after the incident as much as the things leading up to the incident. If they put themselves in the guy's place as one against an assault by a drunk mob, they should conclude that he was or should have been in fear. After actions can be down to shock, adrenaline, continued fear, disorientation etc. His state of mind at time of the stabbing is the key to the level of the charges, and the jurors do have the option of convicting Miu on lesser charges.
  25. Should we be? I was unaware of it until your post. But watching the prosecutor's video made me wonder how many of those young men are being charged with assault?
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