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Not a big fan of the big head & silver "Asian Carp" seems in waters where they thrive common carp size suffer, but found this interesting "PEORIA, Ill. — Despite habitat losses and an Asian carp invasion, the Illinois River is experiencing a resurgence in bass fishing" An abundance of small Asian carp following a large spawning event in 2014 has also provided some extra forage for sportfish. A recent diet study of 1,500 predatory fish on the Illinois River conducted by Western Illinois University revealed Asian carp were found in the stomachs of largemouth bass and other gamefish. However, Hilsabeth said he doubts the bass population resurgence was influenced by bass feeding heavily on Asian carp." full article here https://www.bassmaster.com/…/bass-fishing-rebounding-illino…

shad soup?

fixed--happy? (still hits the grammar nazi in the cooter)

"Over 105,000 pounds of rough fish was removed from the Wisconsin waterways on Satuday night and Sunday morning" ....Published 3:51 p.m. CT May 23, 2016 http://www.marshfieldnewsherald.com/story/news/2016/05/23/ams-bowfishing-big-30-results/84787512/

I don't see it spelled anywhere in that post with a U.... I prefer the term "Hydrobiologia" (Mo-punches the Grammar Nazi in the cooter)

Top is a red ear out of AZ I think...but we have some dandy ones here..Ill shoot you a PM......... I know some thats been in a pond in Kirksville for 8 years..still going strong....the people that push that agenda want you to buy fish out of your area instead out of deep south fish farms that have a longer growing season...same story different day....I grew up in Mobile Alabama in 1985 it got to 3 degrees..my folks said they should have stayed in Missouri...funny thing is the all those southern things did not die..bass..bluegills..yadda yadda even gators, all those critters made it through the last ice age so they can adapt, most ponds that die out in winter here are from O2 issues and bluegills are one of the 1st fishes to croak in a low O2 event.............it gets cold in the deep south just not very often or very long...I would have no qualms spending my $ on coppernose bluegills, but if your twitchy get them from as far north fish farm as you can.....http://www.intellicast.com/local/history.aspx?location=USAL0371

I saw this on another fishing forum from another state, and had to share this here...the scientific community is full of data that suggests waterfowl are directly responsible for transmission of aquatic organisms. I am trying to get the data of a baltic state study of fish eggs fed to ducks, and finding viable fish eggs in duck feces....I don't think bubba the fisherman is hiking into a 1/4 acre farm pond thats over a mile in every direction to stock it with green sunfish, or carp...or Fred the flyfisherman packing in brown trout for 4 days up some high mountain stream that can only be reached by using Carabiners, Ascenders Belay & Rappeling equipment!......food for thought Article: Experimental Quantification of Long Distance Dispersal Potential of Aquatic Snails in the Gut of Migratory Birds. Casper H A van Leeuwen · Gerard van der Velde · Bart van Lith · Marcel Klaassen Article: Gut travellers: Internal dispersal of aquatic organisms by waterfowl. Casper H. A. van Leeuwen · Gerard van der Velde · Jan M. Van Groenendael · Marcel Klaassen Article: Prerequisites for flying snails: External transport potential of aquatic snails by waterbird. C.H.A. Van Leeuwen · G. Van der Velde Ectozoochory as a possible vector enhancing the spread of an alien amphipod Crangonyx pseudogracilis. Hydrobiologia. Rachalewski, M., Banha, F., Grabowski, M. & Anastácio, P.M. (2013) Waterbird-Mediated Passive Dispersal of River Shrimp Athyaephyra desmarestii. Hydrobiologia. Banha, F. and Anastácio, P.M. (2012). Waterbird-mediated passive dispersal is a viable process for crayfish (Procambarus clarkii). Aquatic Ecology. Anastácio, P.M., Ferreira, M.P., Banha, F., Capinha, C., Rabaça, J.E. (2013)

genetics....better ones would help, MDC stocked copper-nose in Stockton a fews years ago...fish are noticably bigger.......I also read some new harvest management rules in Minnesota having a good effect 8" length limits smaller bag limits..etc..

Genetics are becoming more and more a brick wall to produce larger fish, we need to preserve the genetics of those special fish with the traits we want......this paper hits home on that issue..I would implore any fisheries people that the clock is ticking to locate and save special individual fish much like the share a lunker program for Largemouth bass in Texas...Smallmouth bass here could use that sort of boost..I know through my contacts that they are trying to get a baseline on the Neosho strain......SW Missouri ...NW Arkansas NE Oklahoma SE Kansas area Smallmouth bass, historical accounts before people sought state records..Flats heads over 100#.......150# blue cats..... 8# elk river smallmouths, hyperbole? possibly but we have a great deal of data that suggests our fishes are getting smaller....I remember as a kid in the 70's reading magazines showing stringers of 8-10 pound bass from bull shoals...Table Rock..Sam Rayburn...Eufaula....the early years of the B.A.S.S...Bill Dance, Virgil Ward, Billy Westmorland,(if you can find it them ol brown fish is a great read) Charle Campbell.......amazing fishing in those early years....its time to take the next step in the ozarks, who wouldn't want more 5 pound smallmouths? or have a crack at the huge walleyes that once swam in our rivers???...food for thought https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219730/

Like always a few will make the rest loose their fun...anything in moderation

thats disturbing on so many levels

button bush as many flowering plants can have a second but reduced blooming cycle in the late summer.....cool plants.. they grow along the shore and are good places to fish when the water rises in them.....I seem to catch some nice crappie around them

A buddy of mine went down yesterday...was going to do some fishing and deer hunting in the area..said the COE campground and road to the pothole is still closed??? is it shut down for the season? high water kept it closed..no-ones answering the phone.......knw more than a couple who wanted to use that as a base for archery season...and some fishing

Nope.....at lease the few times I have tried.....though doug stange of in fisherman fame fishes crawlers over a bed of corn.... yeah they work well for cats sux doesn't it?..but you opened that gate..Ill walk through.....also here you go an old scifi-B movie with giant leeches, 1st thing I though of when I saw this post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmnE_AuQsCQ <----leech movie also we get some from a mom n pop tackle shop here, that are claimed to be trapped somewhere along the Osage river...posted a pic I found that looks like the catfish "mud leaches" we get at that shop...walleyes at Stockton won't touch them...now the Canadian kind DO work great if you can get them

you may be right...I can only go by what the guy claims..I went and blew it up just now..... the tree behind the bird is fuzzy out of focus, but the birds posture looks odd in flight... like it just left a perch to fly...or startled by the sudden appearance of the fish..you can see the carp through the wings of the bird and one foot down to the claw detail....if it is photoshopped its a darn good one...if you were to go to that much trouble, why a carp???? here are some more 'jumps" to compare

or this?...personally I never keep any bass for the table...

is his you on this video????

top pic is the back of a Mirror Carp in a cradle, a place euro style carp anglers put the fish before taking a pic.... scale patterns are like finger prints,....that one looks insectoidish to me....second was a guy snapping high speed photos trying to catch a carp jumping ..bird just happened to fly by.....again don't clic on things you don't want to see...just hit the ignore....I have about 25k post material already Qued up for your viewing pleasure...so not going anywhere.... as a note since my return to OAF we have added 35 new Carp anglers to our group!

sometimes we see Pics of fish that look more like art...thought I would share

man early turn over sux......nothing like a perfect fall day and fish not in the mood to bite..might be a Nov thing this year.....

I agree totally, the interesting thing here is to grow trophy carp its a MUST to have healthy predator gamefish population and water qualities......most "damaged" waters by carp start by a lack of baby carp eaters ...you need the great gamefish populations to get great trophy carp ..your not going to see common carp managed to the detriment of traditional gamefish..unless its in a water that can't support gamefish because of silt loading or really bad polution issues too many carp can decimate wetlands vegetation waterfowl need...the big issue is winter kill in those wetlands that are getting damaged...freezing out the baby carp eaters, (eggs and larva too)...when you have winter kill in those areas you have way too much recruitment of carp......the University of Minnesota has tons of research on it....carp recruitment from un-winter killed areas is almost non existent...... over harvest of waterfowl is a huge issue, so typically the "we don't have as many ducks to shoot because of the carp" should be too many ducks are getting shot..is why you have less to shoot...those carp have been in those areas for 140 years.....its only is specific conditions that removing carp effect the changes....many times the waterfowl recruitment don't rebound by just removing carp...I will attach a YouTube video of Prezmek Bajer from the University of MN at the bottom ..but in short It is documented that waters with an over abundance of common carp are typically DAMAGED waters, specifically overfished; that means removing baby carp eaters, Source point solution issues, EX. silt from exposed soils (Construction & farming & denuding of vegetative cover) Increased run off in urban areas; Because of asphalt, concrete etc covering soils, washing road salts. hydrocarbons thats gas and oil, trace elements, heavy metals, and sewage into a water system, Common carp can live better in those environments because of their ability to take O2 from the surface (Alligator Gar as well) The University Of Minnesota often referenced studies on controls of Common Carp (Cyprinus carpio) generalize that removing carp = better water clarity and better gamefish populations, increased native vegetation that helps waterfowl populations. This is in ONLY very narrow and specific situations, I will explain Prezmek Bajer dept of fish and wildlife studies, University Of Minnesota. Studied lake Susan in Minnesota common carp reduced from 200kg-to about 60 kg per hectare or from about 250 pounds of carp per acre reduced to 130 pounds per acre a direct quote from Prezmek Bajer "Carp are invasive in SOME places but not invasive in a lot of places 50-100 kg of carp per hectar are ok" Lake Susan that stratifies in summer, water clarity increased in May & June but fell back almost no change post carp removal levels July-October Bayer goes on to say "phosphorus loading blamed on carp in laboratory tests, are not typically shown in real world in the lake results.....so phosphorus is not always driven by carp....... other things are happening we are not sure about".... It should be noted he goes on to warn vegetation along the shoreline usually goes up, this sometimes is a problem for recreational users....Lake Wingra in Madison, WI.., another poster child for carp removal...weed growth exploded making the lake less usable..so much so they mechanically remove the weeds for hundreds of thousand of dollars...then blamed the geese..(poop) and removed them yet still have water quality issues...the lake HAD 35 some springs that used to feed that lake..most have been covered or tapped for farm applications...at the same time of the carp removals several springs had been located and restored, enhancing the perceived better water quality attributed solely to the removal of the carp,..... carp are still there just not at the larger densities...the WI fisheries has stocked more baby carp eaters (Muskie) to keep things in check Also of note common carp have poor recruitment in waters that have good populations of native fishes because those fish that feed heavlly on eggs and carp larva; bluegills specifically noted, Bluegills are one of the 1st fishes to die in a low O2 event exacerbating YOY recruitment of common carp. like most fisheries management situations it usually not so simple..removing common carp (buffalo as well) doesn't always = better fishing or waterfowl recruitment, just in the right situations.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P58Hjr3T6sU <---Prezmek Bajer carp video

how are the ramps now?....BS has been high all year.....and hows the fishing????