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In the archives you will find a discussion on this very same 24 inch issue. It was initiated by Murdoc. He spent quite a bit of time talking to people in the know, and found out that mdc even monitors this website from time to time. They are interested, but did nothing on the last go around. Maybe now is the time. In the meantime, tell every one you run into that there is a voluntary 24 inch limit on taney. My personal vote, would be for a 20 to 30 inch slot limit. In my most humble opinion, slot limits due more to increase the size and quality of trout in lake taneycomo. Lots of options out there, and any would be an improvement. Maybe mdc will monitor this discussion as well. Thank you "MDC" for all you do.

Thank you Jeff, I knew that one came out of the river but didnt have a clue about the second fish. My comment to Dylan about "to easy to catch" is a fact. Mdc found that the original strain were being caught out faster than they could raise them. The sheep creek strain they settled on is afraid of its own shadow, literally.

To easy to catch

Well, tell us more Justin, dont leave us hanging out to dry.

The first 41.5 lber was caught up one of the tribs during the salmon spawn. Another that was called a tie for the world record, I am not sure if it was caught in the river or the lake. Both in michigan though, and both seaforellens. And I agree with JD, missouri fish in the 25 to 30 lb range are at the end of their life cycle and have a hard time recovering from stress.

The seaforellens were brought into michigan and new york because they are a lake dwelling trout. Not sure when, but they could not have been here for long. As far as farm raised, one could count missouri's fish as farm raised.As to refer back to the original topic, I do not think that missouri is capable of producing a world record brown with our current fish that mdc raises. No complaints though, missouri has a fine brown trout fishery. We have several big fish to whet our appetites.

Dylan brought up a good point about the new record rainbow being a triploid. In addition to that, the new world record brown is a seaforellen. Missouri and arkansas strains of rainbow and brown trout have already been put on the back burner by these two strains of fish. I am not very well versed on rainbow trout, but I can tell you that missouri has the midget strain of all rainbow trout. As far as brown trout, here is what I know. Missouri fish have a shelf life of 13 years and grow to around 29 lbs. Arkansas fish live for 17 years and grow to just over 40 lbs. I am not sure as to how long a life span the seaforellen fish has, but I do know that current world record fish is 6.5 years old at 41.5 lbs. Pictures of a 55 and a 56 lber from a lake in scotland in the sixties made front page news in outdoor life. These fish were somehow excluded from the record books for reasons I do not recall. I would like to see 40 lb fish at taney in my lifetime.

If mdc would allow the experimentation of triploid and seaforellen browns I would say definately yes. And even a few years back I would have said "a likely possibility". Knowing what I know now about our unique strain of brown trout, I would say "possible but not likely". It is certainly likely that taney will produce some low 30's in the near future. For those who might be wondering, the picture is of Nathan Deisel with a tremendous 23.75lb fish. Caught in 04 if my memory has not failed me. Thanks for posting this Phil.

In answer to bcm, water is at it's greatest density and weight at 39.2 which allows it to sink through the other temp ranges and displace the water, like a water heater. As it gets colder on the surface, i suppose it gets lighter because ice floats.

Dang Murdoc, do you even have time for your real job anymore? Glad to hear the news, I know you work hard at it.

One other thing that I forgot, here at loz it is not a true upside down turnover as people describe. With the 3mph current, it is more of a rolling and mixing event and will concentrate and leave debris in the back eddy areas of the lake.

It is always handy to blame your fishing success on the turnover. I will happen here at loz when the surface water reaches 39.2 degrees. with an early winter on the way it could happen any time. Already got snow out west.

A great fish Buzz, congrats.

I tip my hat to the people who jumped on board and wished this guy a big hearty wow or a congratulations for a fish of a lifetime. but, it seems like most times a two page article get started on how this guy should have done this or should not have done that. Chum, no chum, discredit the guide, its not native so it doesnt count. Come on people. This guy caught a huge fish and it is no small feat to land a fish of that caliber.

Sad news indeed, but I am sure his legacy will live on through you and others. My condolences to you and the family.

Most say that there are better ways to catch bigger fish. Well I say not, especially when it comes to trout.

Five lunkers, in the trout park, and in the month of august. Can anyone else top that? I would say not. Congrats to you and wife Suzie.

Absolutely tremendous, a fish of a lifetime for grandpa and grandsons alike. Like missouri, the male fish on the white, are starting their staging ritual.

nice fish Dylan, say congrats to your buddy

Hi NoLuck, this is in response to the rumors that you heard about fish being shipped out. I took a friend last thursday to bssp. He is from houston tx, and he told me that some of their city lakes were stocked last winter with fish bought from bssp. Is it possible this could be true?

I think bssp is trying to compete with blue springs creek and some other blue ribbon water. Instead of catching three 6 inchers at the blue ribbon places, come to bssp and catch 20.

Here we go again on that thing about all them fish dying from catch and release. Honestly, I see alot more dead fish hanging from a stringer. You can defend your catch and keep methods all you want, but keep one thing in mind. It is just as legal for me to turn them fish loose, as it is for you to string em up.

You know Al, I keep forgetting about them dnr people, and you are right, they control most things outside the confines of the creek bank.

By all means bbt, go visit bssp and fish. It will fish good, just dont expect that fish of a lifetime to be lurking on the far bank. It is what it is, as micheal kyle says. Take in all the parks and compare, Each one has its own special appeal. Bennet is the easiest of all parks to fish. It has good access.

I think whom ever was in charge in the seventies, tried to capitalize on the numbers game by first having bob lamms state record rainbow big news in field and stream magazine. For missouri to light up a nationwide fishing mag about trout fishing was unheard of. Most out of staters didnt even realize that missouri had trout like that. But to their dismay, along comes an article about taneycomo about a year later. I can recall the headlines from outdoor life, i think it was, Lake Taneycomo, the premier trout fishing destination of the usa. As wayne states, we didnt realize at that time, that we were on a downhill slide because fishing was tremendous at bssp. It was not uncommon to catch a limit of five lunkers in a single day. You often heard talk about a c and r area, but of course it was only talk to help smooth things out. Like the new and improved hatchery facility, they will use it to help try to smooth things over for awhile. But even that will only be temporary. All they have done is buy some time by saying you need to give this new hatchery a time to catch up. When it runs its course, they will invent something new.