laker67

I guess we still live in the good old days FW. I too use the tension drift and refer to it as "cruise control". It is one of my highly effective methods for night time.

you got that right, you put bman and chuck together, and those dang fish dont stand a chance.

Never said it wouldn't. Said you couldn't throw cranks, jerks, little cleos on fly rod. Least none that i ever owned.

Well Joe, you certainly have more options with spin gear. You can throw jerks, cranks, little cleos, and even power bait. We would be hard pressed to do that with fly gear. All of these lures, fished on spin gear, have caught most of missouri's state record brown trout. Only one has been taken on fly gear. You certainly have the advantage when it comes to extremely large fish, and the record book shows that to be true. Fly vs spin is a choice and nothing else. I am not sure why some try so hard to make that an issue.

As always Bruce, your fish catching ability never disapoints me. Without fail, each and every fall season, you bring to hand these nice fish. I am sure this will not be the last we see from you this fall. Congrats buddy.

Another train of thought is that it might be used to attract the opposite sex.

I once read somewhere that the jumping was thought to be a navagational thing, but I find that hard to believe. I am more inclined to think like Phil and Brian. It definately has something to do with pre spawn, and I see alot of this activity at night.

Went right by me. lol

That's to early, I always say they are gone by thanksgiving. You should still have good activity at the end of october.

Howdy J77, I talked with you about 11:30 on friday night, and I recall you saying that you had caught mostly browns. I was the old timer getting geared up at the pavillion. Got on the water just as they shut it down at midnight. First bite of the night was a nice healthy 4 lb rainbow. Caught several more in the next 3 hrs, but all were rainbows. I have seen this occurance several times in the past, browns seem to key in on rapalas. A few years back, I witnessed an 18 lber caught at night on a rapala. The guy came in behind me, and caught it on the first cast to the water I had just spent some time fishing. You are due for one of those big fish.

A nice fish indeed GM, congrats.

I will say this at the risk of being slam banged against the wall, In my lifetime of catching big fish on light tippet, I have seen no adverse effects. With light tippet you are at the mercy of the fish, you fight his battle on his terms. Landing and fighting the fish is more of a gentle persuasion rather than a rip around tug of war when you are using heavy tippet with more hook strength. Survival has more to do with what "you" do after the fish is landed on any type of tackle. In my opionion, it is impossible to overpower and stress a fish on 7x tippet.

I have had 100 percent success with water. Of course I have only had to do twice. Look at the area one evening and get a mental picture of the tunnels. Check the next afternoon for new or continued work. A garden hose and a shovel works great. Depending on slope, if any, make a dam with shovel stuck in the ground and the garden hose on other end. Pick the area most recently used. He will either drown in the tunnel or he will try to dig out, which you will see the earth moving and can react accordingly.

You have no sense of adventure there Brian.

Have not noticed any full body jumpers at night, but, have seen quite a bit of monach activity the past week.

I have witness his art work at the home of a friend in Desloge, mo. It is the work he did with the missouri trout stamps. Incredible and so realistic that you just picture it in motion.

One of the first big browns to come out of taney was caught by Dave Betherm on a salmon fur bug. It was caught shortly after the 84 flood that created the original rebar hole, and was caught there at rebar. It weighed 14 lb 2 oz. Later in the same morning he caught a rainbow that weighed 13 lb 8 oz, but on a different fly. Spence Turner wrote an article about taney and featured Dave and his 2 fish in the conservationist mag. He wrote another article later, and featured Dave catching an 8 lb rainbow, at night, on the salmon fur bug. Spence changed some of the actual details about the fly, but Dave told me it was our salmon fur bug that done the catching.

I will check it out JD.

From what I understand, cold weather reduces the rate that co2 converts to gas, thus allowing the liquid to flow into the pfd chamber. You would think at some point, maybe slowly, that it would still convert to gas and inflate.

Got to agree with Wayne on this one, Charlie grew up in Lebanon and worked for Tony and Shirley at spring view fly shop when this came about. I caught my very first lunker on the salmon fur bug in 1975, and I think we started using it the year before. Not sure who came up with the material , but I can tell you that I have caught more lunkers on this fly than most people would believe, and continue to catch a few each season.

Another old time fly is the "salmon fur bug" created at bssp. It is made from hair ribbon that seperates into 6 different strands. It is a salmon or orange color and makes an ever better egg pattern after the original fur bug shape. For those who do not recall the fur bug, it is just a blob tied to a hook. A buddy and myself bought 6 pounds of the material in the 70's and divided it up. Do you have any idea how much hair ribbon material is in 3 pounds? We didn't. I have used about half of what I started with, and still have 33 quart size ziplock bags full of the unseperated material. A good fish catcher still today.

Seems as if I have heard this before. The crackleback is a spinoff of the wooly worm that was used in a "skipping" technique . This skipping wooly technique may have started at bssp. Bill Butts, from this forum, and his dad, were pioneers in skipping woolies. Chime in Bill, and give us some more info.

Right you are Wayne. The army worm and mini jig were some other creations of local oriigin. Acetone flies were popular in the 60' s and 70's. The mini jig started as a wooly worm tied on an 80th ounce jig hook. Us hillbiillys didnt use nymphs, they were fur balls or fur bugs as Wayne stated.

Short rods and trout parks, truly a lost art of days gone by. Shorter but not lighter is the key. A 5 wt rod between 6 and 7 feet long is ideal for sight fishing. But, only for sight fishing in close like you do in the parks. Venture out into open water like taney, and you might as well snag some minners and use it for bait fishing.

I would vote for the minimum flow, but usually tailwater fish are not to structure orientated. I cant tell that the boulders at taney have made a nickles worth of difference.