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To stlfisher and Kayser, I am certainly not opposed to changing and modifying some regs. But in all fairness to the park fisherman it is not likely to happen. Same thing could apply to rainbows moving out of the trophy area. Isn't there a length limit on them as well? I am in favor of a statewide limit of one brown per day, and a statewide lenth limit as well. I just can't see it ever happening though. The parks generate enough MDC monies to maintain the streams.

Quite a few of these skilled spin rodders are derby oriented. By that, I mean they actually travel from park to park for the derbys. Some even have their sons doing the kids derby. They are good at what they do, and most all, keep "all" fish. They use a variety of offerings, including bait. A dough bait made from trout food and cream cheese is highly effective for them. They use jigs, but seldom use white. White is mainly for the intentional snaggers. That comment is not directed to you FC. Merely a statement. As far as tropy hunters keeping fish, we do on occasion. I use to trade lunkers to Bob Ellsworth taxidermy shop for free mounts. He would use the fish I gave him to advertise his business. Over the years, I haved kept 27 lunkers for one reason or another. That is about a 2 to 3% kill rate.

I am not so sure that the current is any different from bssp or taney. At bssp they move out of the river in the same manner to either spawn or find cooler water. At taney they move out of the trophy area to deeper and cooler water. Their seasonal moves put them at risk in all three areas. It's all part of a controlled harvest as is deer hunting during the mating season. For the record, I now know the name of the angler in the photo. And from reliable sources, he is a very skilled angler. I have no doubt that those fish were harvested legally.

A very interesting discussion here. I will make no opinion on the angler in question for the fact that I do not know him personally. But in regard to 3wt's comment, I will respond. I know several anglers who have the skills and the patience to do what you have described on a regular basis. Several are members in good standing on oaf. Multiple lunker catches, in a days fishing, is what they do best. They are not fish killers. 99 out of 100 will be released to be caught again. Occasionally they will keep a fish that tops their personal best. Catching a limit, or more, of lunker trout in one day of fishing happens alot more than you are aware of.

This is why I have always said, for the wading angler, that the upper lake will be the most challenging place you fish in missouri. Not only major changes, but the daily changes as well. Low to high and back again all on the same day. Too much low water for an extended time period is bad. You need generation to bring new fish in, and to put the resident fish on a feeding surge. And in this case, as Phil states, low water is bad for the aquatic insects. The challenge is what makes taney so unique and rewarding. I wouldn't trade it for any other place in the world.

Here's a thought oneshot. Someone is going to get that 10 bucks anyway. Might as well give it to the oil company, and enjoy a day of fishing with someone special. Give us a report if you go.

Good luck tonight Micheal. Good to see you on the board again.

Thank you Phil.

Thanks for keeping us updated Phil. What is the tailrace level with 2 units going, assuming that the boards are still down at powersite?

Wow. That's quite a fish Al. Thanks for sharing.

The puncture wounds on the trout are most likely from a great blue heron. Herons will kill or attempt to kill fish that are too large for them to swallow. I have watched them drop them on the bank and walk away to kill another. Puncture wounds from herons are most always on the upper shoulder area near the head. Nice photos, thanks for sharing.

I hate to think that they went out of business. They do fantastic work. I would have, and still do highly recommended them. Gary Fisher is the owner, you might contact him in the white pages. The brown trout he did for me, is a work of art.

You are exactly right. It's always a "come on down", we don't care if you spend your hard earned gas dollars on a trip you would not take if you knew the real conditions of the creek. And just for the record, the hatchery personel at MSP are always honest when I ask water conditions. Not so much the case elsewhere.

An excellent choice.

Hey there Jeff, good to see you on the board. I hope you continue to share some of your knowledge and stories. Say hello to Susie, for me.

Mine would be to catch 1500 lunkers, and 50 trout over 10 pounds before I die. If I don't make it, I have had a great trip along the way.

When they first started the C and R season in 76, you were required to pick up a daily tag when you started fishing, and also return the daily day at the end of the day. There was no charge for the tag, but you were required to fill out the info on the back. That info was about how you rated the fishing and the number of fish caught. They continued this for several years. Like someone said earlier, they had to pay someone to be available to issue the tags and recieve them at the end of the day. Now with the trout stamp you do nothing but show up and fish. I am sure the trout stamp helps offset some of the cost involved with the winter fishing, even though the hatchery personell are there anyway.

You all have some pretty good reasons for buying or not buying a trout stamp. For all of you C and R guys this probably won't matter one way or the other. This a true story from back in the 70's when I first started fishing lake taneycomo. Back then a trout stamp was only required if you possessed trout. Being primarily a park fisherman, I never had the need for a trout stamp. Being primarily a C and R person made even more sense that I would not need one at taney. However, the thought of possibly catching a record fish so intrigue me, that I have purchased one every year, starting with that first trip.

You would have to make the comparison test. Compared to other fish, not so good. Compared to starving to death, maybe. Welcome to the web site.

Thanks guys for the info on the boards. I never gave it much thought before.

I have heard about the boards at powersite for years now, and never gave it much thought. How are they installed, and who pulls the plug on that first board during high water ?

With the way it pushed things around, we may have some rocks and deeper holes. How much depth do the boards take away.

Made a quick run to taney this morning. I only had 4 hrs to fish, so I did not get a good look at all of the changes that have taken place after the flood. Water level was at 705.5, so I got a good look in and around the outlets. Outlet #1, on the hatchery side, has changed completely. The bank on the upstream side towards the point, is cut all the way back to the old timber line. Out in front of the outlet is completely filled in with sand up to the level where the hatchery chute hits the rocks. Speaking of rocks, the large rock,on the upstream side, is either gone or completely covered. So is the pipe with the concrete attached. Going downstream, around the bend and to the log, the bank is cut back to the tree line as well. It looks as if you had taken a saw and made a vertical cut about 6 feet deep. The vertical bank is about head high and the water against it is butt deep to a tall Indian. No offense meant Chief. At #2 outlet, lots of the upstream bank is gone. Also, the one giant rock has been moved, and two others now sit beside it. They are almost as big as the original placed there by the 04 flood event. It is amazing what the power of water can do. Banks are gone, trees are gone, and there is not a leaf on the ground the first 30 foot away from the water. The mound of gravel upstream from the island is now a flat of gravel. Lots of trees down and gone from the island, as well as some of the island. I did not venture down any further because I ran out of time,and I was too busy catching fish. Caught several 2 to 3 pound fish, and one 4 pounder lost, and another 4 pounder landed. I witnessed 3 other fish caught in the 3 to 4 pound class. The fish are still fat and healthy, some look like trout park gut feeders. Anyway, expect to see some major changes when the water is at 701.

Good point. Do your homework before you go. Patagonia has an average wind speed of 30mph. Not a friendly place for long casts or sight fishing. I was looking at Chile late in the season. More protected and smaller water. The later in the season, the more big fish farther up. I watched Larry Dalberg land a 25 pounder right near the border of Argentina and Chile. Joe Brooks 1955 IGFA world record brown came from Chile.

Two members of this forum would be very helpful. Zach Bearden and Motroutbum.