Bill Babler

Terrierman we have the same recipe. Grey really work when fly fishing as you can see depth. My other go to is Orvis, they have outstanding eye wear. I'm also hearing great things about Vicious single prescription shades.

Great question. The FS units lack the bells and whistles that the HDS Live have. Still great resolution. One of my Lowrance buddies Said it really depends on your application. Both will run Active Target, Live Sonar but the FS unit only goes up to a 9" screen. The live units go from 9-12-16 inch screen. If your planning on splits or Active Target you best go with the Live unit. He recommended at least the 12" screen for a single bow unit or if your going to run a multiple screens or perhaps multiple units. He is running a 16" on the bow with 3 way split screen. Active Target, Map, and 2D Console is a 2D, Map and Side Scan split 3 ways. He wanted four, 12" screens, but they were not available to the pro-staff, when he ordered. If your not going to use AT, the 9" FS is plenty good. A little more info and we can refine it closer. Like how your going to use it

Devan, I agree with most of that, but the scouts and PRO organizations, anymore really don't hold the least bit of animosity for players that sit out the bowl games. I really think they prefer 1st. thru 4th. round possible players to opt out. Go start working toward the combine and your pro-day. There are schools from Florida to California that all they do is prepare these athletes for the NFL. They just cannot get that kind of training and refining of their skills on a college campus. Burks body of work was not done that early in the season. He was playing to climb the draft order. He did what he needed to do and then some. Bowl game is not making you any more money. Only post season games that matter are conference championships and national championships. If your not involved in those why play. That's why about 1/2 the kids don't want to play. If your going to make them go out and play a meaningless game, pay them to do it. Only if they want to.

Duck hunters are pounding at them this morning also from Clevenger Island. Those boys are a hearty breed. Hi Donna.

7:36 and again this morning 20 degree. First boat just went by, North to South. Got to believe them must be migrating instead of fishing. Get em boys.

Finely a picture of my gal. You been holding out on me James😄 James you look really good. Nice Pish Donna is holding.

Got up this morning to 22 degrees and by 8:30 temps had dropped to 20. Saw the first of 4 boats headed from the dam area toward Long Creek. They we're spaced out over an hour period of time. High for the day here was 24 and just prior to dark there were 3 boats sitting in the middle of Big Cedar Hollow deep fishing. Probably saw at least 10 different boats out today in the dam area. Must be great to be young and that energetic with not much concern about the cold. Anyone that brave gets my best of luck wishes and what surprises me were how many guys that were out in it today

Guess we have just seen in the Sugar Bowl why you don't play in these bowl games. Total disaster for Matt Corral. Projected as the 10th overall pick and first QB off the board. We will see how bad it is and how his status is on draft day. Really a shame

Arkansas without 2 starters and Penn State without 6. what if and it happens all the time your best player gets hurt in a totally meaningless game. That’s why all the opt outs. The question was asked do you want to play in a bowl game? 43 percent of the kids said no. Need to have a championship series 12 teams, in 6 bowls. Reseat the next 3 bowls. That leaves 3 teams. Reseat top team gets a by. With NIL the transfer portal and opt outs there are way to many games. For cripes sakes as bad as Mizzou was they still made a bowl. I think 3 people went.

Remember when I asked what if you had more money than you could spend. 😀😀😀 You could hopscotch from Lowrance to Hummingbird to Garmin back and forth to keep up with the Pro's😜😜😜 Happy New Year to all and enjoy all your new toys.

Yes you can do it but it is for sure not the best way. Also why would you want it on the bow, you would have to sit up there and run the trolling motor at 2.5 mph and that would be max speed or above for the Ulterra or the Ultrex. Hummingbird says the boat has to be moving 3 to 5 mph. Were your series 31 batteries the 100AH or the 63AH? These pros are saying the 100AH has no problem running the electronics 8 to 10 hours a day. Might have been fibbing but I looked in the bilge at the set ups and that's what they were.

This is just a guess, but in the pretty near future I think you may see a Panoptics Live scope, that is imaging out to 150 ft. That has 360 degrees of total realtime imaging. As you know that is much further than a side view, and this is something that you use on the bow trolling motor, not having to go 2.5 mph. It will read at any speed, including dead still. This will get rid of the Perspective mount and multiple livescopes. As I said, I think this deal is about to get completely blown up.

Kind of Highjacked Dutch's thread, but here is some really great information I also picked up from these guys. If your running a Ghost or a Force 24/36 trolling motor. Buy a single 24V. 100AH lithium battery to run the troller and 1 series 31 AGM 100AH to run your starting battery and electronics. Your dumping a load of batteries and weight and losing no performance That 24 will run either one of those motors 16 plus hours of continuing operation in any weather condition. Saw different boats they were running that configuration with up to six 12" graphs, on one if them.

To tell you the truth, without giving any shop talk away, you might want to hold off a bit on forward facing electronics. I saw some things. Great answer by nomolites on Steve's question. Yes without a doubt and the best way to go would be to hook up a new Bird to your existing transducer on the Minn Kota as they are symbiotic. I would also replace that transducer so both your graph and transducer were new. Should give you great mapping and good 2D sonar. Bill Beck never ran a transducer over 3 years. Nomolities also hit it on the head with the side view, transducer in the back to a console unit that networks with the bow.

Was down at Russellville getting my Christmas presents put on my boat and there were a bunch of Pro-Fishermen there. Hearing Bird is coming out with a upgrade or a Mega Live II, that is going to come out in late 2022. Lowrance is coming out with some additional refinements to clarify the picture. It currently has greater distance than the Garmin out to 100 ft. but not the quality of picture refinement. Garmin has a couple of new transducers out right now for testing that is going to push out Livescope to 150 ft. Another that will even further enhance 2 D sonar and further define Clear Vu down and CV side images. This is a total arms race, just like computers and phones. In 2 years I've got a feeling all the forward sonar we are using now will be about as useful as a flip phone. Dutch you will be amazed at the numbers of fish you see that totally reject the bait, either real or live. 1 out of 25 bite it. Good luck with the new toy.

Georgia is favored by 2.5, I still don't believe in Smart vs Saban. Smart will try to do what has been working all year, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Alabama vs Georgia is big brother vs little bro. I'm thinking the fighting Saban's by 2 scores.

I wasn't for sure it was a hose job in the fact they ruled his forward progress stopped prior to him reaching out the ball over the goal line. (Runner kind of reached it out as an after thought.) I knew they were going to rule it that way as the side judge was waving his hands even prior to the whistle On top of that I could care less if Tenner ever won another game.

James, you can bet it has. Probably be really happy when you change it out.

Look at the quality of the picture on that HDS unit. Lowrance owns 2D technology and the down image is also state of the art. Look at the flasher on the extreme right side of the screen. You can pretty much see every fish in that school real time. Thanks Doc. Wonderful pictures of fish and how ya did it

Bobby that is great info. Did not know this on the Garmin Ultra. That's why I love this site. Learn something every time I read it. Had to talk to a 1/2 dozen Garmin guys before I could find one that knew about it and really how to get there from here. My Regional Phoenix rep. Got me there. Should have been my first call Go to menus, then setup, then appearance, then A-scope and you got it. Said its not as good as the Lowrance. No one seems to know exactly how to do it on the solix Bobby so if you do please post it when your feeling better. Thanks guys

Never have seen it on either unit. I'm going to have to figure put how to use it in mine. Was told it did not have it. Very interesting I'm going to try and look it up right now. Thanks

Fish247 is right as rain. Bull is by far the King of the White River, Big Winter Sack. Beautiful fish, thanks for posting. Buster and I a few years ago weighed in a 19.9 pound bag in a 100 boat January, derby and didn't get a check. First boat out. I think we also had a 7.1 that was 4th. big bass first big out of the money. We were out of Buck Creek and he accidentally locked my keys in the truck and my wife had to drive from Blue Eye to bring a spare set so I for sure won't forget that day. She won't let me. Guy that won it had 28 pounds on a jerk bait. Including an 8.1. Most of us caught them on an A-rig. Said he had never fished the lake before and saw gulls diving in a creek mouth. Had a jerker tied on and the rest was history. 26# is a Monster sack anywhere and I grew up on Lake O.

Thought it might have been good early but we didn't get out till 10. Couldn't find any bottom fish, ours were suspended over the shad. Some shad as deep as 110 ft. Fish in the 40' to 70' range. Lots of refusal. Notice the Real-time flasher in the extreme right of the screen. If you have a Lowrance enable this feature its fantastic.

Happened to us about 5 years ago in Stone County. Our son got bit, I think 6 punctures requiring I believe 10 stitches. Got bit on our property and did not even know the dog was behind him. Stone County would not send a deputy but did tell me if I took any action other than legal against its owner or the dog that I was going to be the one in trouble. Went in to the ER and got him stitched and a tetanus shot and that was the end of it. This dog had all its vaccination and the ER Doc. said almost zero chance it had rabies. Sorry you had to go thru this.

In the last week I have had the pleasure to check out 3 entirely different trolling motor and sonar systems. Today I went with Phil Stone in his new Phoenix 2022 PHX. What a big water beast. He now has a total of 2 hrs. on it. Just fished a little while and didn't get out till 10. Just played with the new toys. Phil has a solid Lowrance Pro-Staff deal. This saves a bunch of money but availability of equipment puts you behind full pay clients. His new ride has two 16" graphs and a Ghost trolling motor. Here are my thoughts; Not even close that trolling motor is the best thing I have ever seen. Easy one little finger deploy and retract, quiet as a church house mouse and dead balls accurate and smooth on GPS lock. Not Xi5 smooth, as that does not exist, but better than my Garmin and light years ahead of the other brand. Garmin and Minn Kota have a bit of catching up to do. No doubt my Garmin is faster point A to B but not by much, maybe 1/2 a mph faster but the Lowrance is way better defined and way more ergonomic, and much smoother. On his electronic set up it is what it is because the pro-staff could only order certain pieces at that time. His 16" screens on the bow and console are beautiful, Lowrance crystal clear. Still without a doubt the leader in the industry on clarity, mapping, GPS and 2D sonar. Where huge steps have been made is down and side imaging are extremely detailed. Count every tiny limb on every tree. I don't think its better than the Garmin, but a very close second. Now lets talk a bit about the Active Target. It's good, extremely clear, but clear to the point of needing to be a little less so. It just does not preform in the short time I've looked at it any where near the Live Scope. It needs quite a bit more defined resolution. His 2D was really picking up fish, bait and your line and lure way better than the Active Target, just the opposite of the Garmin. His graph configuration needs to be a 16" and a 12" on the bow or two 12" graphs up front. By the time you divide the 16" screen in GPS map, 2D and Active Target, you have cut your screen Down way to much, especially on the AT. Back to the 2D, another feature of the Lowrance is real-time. It has been a feature for years, it's a quick, ie real time flasher at the extreme right side of the 2D. We could see fish pull up on the bait sit there looking and then move no more than inches and take it. Really it's Poor Man's Live Scope. It is so defined and tuned in these units, if your vertical fishing its all you need to watch, if your directly above them. If you are running any Lowrance unit, enable this feature. You will simply love it. My Garmin set up, starting with the Force. Mine, knock on wood has never caused me a second of problems. Has worked flawless. Fast, easy to deploy and retract, quiet, quick lock but somewhat jerky on lock I have loved it. Lowrance Ghost is better, hands down. Garmin 2D sonar. It's really good, not as real-time fast or as bright and clear as the Lowrance but a close second best, and good enough for me. I may switch transducers as Garmin has a new model out that is a 100% upgrade, off their steadfast UHD 56, I have one for my new console arrays that Santa is bringing for Christmas and if it's that much better I'll get it for the trolling motor. Side and Down scan, I noticed a couple of years ago my regional Phoenix Rep. went from a Solex to the Garmin echo map Ultra Series, his side and down scan were spectacular. His Solix was really good but the Garmin and now the Lowrance is in another league. Live Scope. The live scope has a total range of adjustments, it's screen is not as clean as the Lowrance, but its target definition is way better, not close as far as I'm concerned but have not spent the time with the Lowrance I have with my Garmin. One of my best clients has a total Minn Kota Hummingbird set up, including Ultrex the mega 360 and 4 solix units. Played with it last week total package worked more than perfect, and does everything possible to assist a deep water fisherman. Really nice set up. I'm going to say at this point just a bit dated compared to the competition. His setup is new 2022 right off the shelf but I'm sure since this is an arm's race they will be the new kid on the block soon. That's all I know and probably more than you wanted to know. Good Luck