I don't know how far up the stained water goes, but that was the deal Monday. Stained water with sun. Shallow, ledge rock with some buck brush. They were not up in the buck brush, but right out in front of it. I got more bites on the Menace grub, but still got some on the Ned.
Weather may screw things up for a bit, I'd like to get out tomorrow and fish the afternoon sunshine, assuming we don't get crazy rain tonight.