ozarkgunner Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 If somebody needs an assult rifle to hunt with, then in my book they ain't much of a hunter. Now I ain't saying I am God's gift to hunting, but I rarely shoot more that 50 yrds. 75 yrds tops. If I can't get any closer than that, then I don't deserve to harvest. I don't need any AR or AK or any of that junk either. A good .243, 30-30, or .270 in my book is all I need. But I ain't shooting moose around here either so I can see using a larger caliber but, certainly not around here. Now just where did you come up with these millions of hunters using Assult Rifles to hunt with? The last time I checked you can't legally hunt deer in Missouri with more than a ten round clip. This makes the effectiveness for hunting purposes of an AR or an AK no differnt than your grandfathers old Browning BAR. Who uses a semi-auto to hunt anyways... oh wait most duck hunters. Don't forget what happened to Jim Zumbo when he made his comments on AR's. I say let people hunt with what ever gun they want so as long as it has a plug or a limited mag. Looks are just that looks... Those evil black rifles can make great hunting rifle for small game and the price tag ($1000 plus for a good ar) makes them anything but junk. Angler At Law
hoglaw Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 JJ: I'm not going to step in to everyone's gun control debate here. I like to hunt, I own guns. That article, however, is quite possibly the worst piece of fear-mongering propaganda I've ever read. Maybe it's just the lawyer in me, but I don't even know where to begin...therefore I won't. There's a lot more you can do to support the cause of gun rights than to rely on sensationalized BS like that. It makes the rest of us who support gun rights look crazy. We shouldn't be the crazies, we should be the rationalists.
jdmidwest Posted November 13, 2008 Author Posted November 13, 2008 Ok Tadman, I'll say it real slow you you can understand. I have owned an AR15 Semi Auto Colt Rifle in .223 since 1986. I have used it to hunt and kill deer, ground hogs, coyotes, crows, and various other varmints. It is a flat shooting, rugged, easy to clean and maintain firearm that I don't have to worry about the stock swelling up on during a rain storm or rusting due to its parkerized finish. I have spacers for the factory 20 round clip that restrict it to 10 rounds, and that makes it legal to hunt with in MO. I have a 22 lr. adapter that converts it and allows me to plink and take small game like squirrels and rabbits. It was banned under the Clinton Assault Weapon bill because it had a flash hider, threaded barrel, bayonet lug, and the capability of a magazine greater than 10 rounds. It has a synthetic stock made of black composite, hence the ugly term, black rifle. The AR15 is fun and cheap to shoot. It is modular, you can have many different combinations and calibers, the lower part is the only part that has to be transferred with an FFL. I think you have a misconception, probably from watching too much TV, that is a long range rifle. I would class it below the power and range of any of the rifle calibers you mentioned, so your jab about range is mute. As far as the millions hunters hunt with them, well I pulled it out of my butt. But seriously, aside from the game hunted in the United States, our soldiers drop a few terrorists with them every day. About the only thing I agree with you on is: You really don't sound like much of a hunter, really! And you are making an impression on here that you are not God's Gift to anything! "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Ham Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 The 2nd Ammendment just went before the Supreme Court. It survived this trip, but who knows what will be handed down the next time around. Obama will likely get to appoint Supreme Court justices and I really doubt they will be conservatives. Obama will be got in 8 years, but his appointees to the different levels of the judical branch will be a stain that lingers. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
jjtroutbum Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 JJ: I'm not going to step in to everyone's gun control debate here. I like to hunt, I own guns. That article, however, is quite possibly the worst piece of fear-mongering propaganda I've ever read. Maybe it's just the lawyer in me, but I don't even know where to begin...therefore I won't. There's a lot more you can do to support the cause of gun rights than to rely on sensationalized BS like that. It makes the rest of us who support gun rights look crazy. We shouldn't be the crazies, we should be the rationalists. I agree it should scare free people. And yes it is a piece that has been sensationalized maybe even factually distorted for effect. ( I did a little fact checking on it) I will totally admit it. Unlike those that feel guns commit crimes instead of criminals. "Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sara Brady Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, to Senator Howard Metzenbaum The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3. Jon Joy ___________ "A jerk at one end of the line is enough." unknown author The Second Amendment was written for hunting tyrants not ducks. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin, 1759
KCRIVERRAT Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 That's It... I'm contacting the FBI ! HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
Flysmallie Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 That's It... I'm contacting the FBI ! LOL. Call the Fear-monger police too. I think JJ's been drinking the coffee creamer straight out of the bottle again!!
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