denjac Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 If they feel "Froggy" about it, they can come and jump right on, I'm not hard to find. Bill, havent heard that expression in years, made me laugh. Kinda like, lets go scratch a little gravel. Dennis Boothe Joplin Mo. For a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." ~ Winston Churchill ~
stone9-7=2 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 This lowly crappie catcher happens to agree with Bill on this one & I hope you find whoever it is & nail there ball sac to a 4ft stump & push them off it. Yes i make my own crappie beds & either use christmas trees that i get from my own house & my parents house. Don't see the point in RAPING the land,it's RAPED enough the way it is. Have a nice day all,back to Bull Shoals I go.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted August 31, 2009 Root Admin Posted August 31, 2009 T/t Jeremy today. He said the Corp would LOVE to write a ticket but they have to see it done personally almost to make it stick. Hard to do. But he did confirm it's a huge fine.
stone9-7=2 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 So your saying it's aginst the law to make your own crappie beds????? If so then i guess i'll not make any more. I find it hard to believe you can't make your own brush piles.
Bill Babler Posted September 1, 2009 Author Posted September 1, 2009 Stony, don't quote me on this, but I don't believe the Govt. cares if you put a cedar or two or even a dead oak limb or pile of them in a cove or two. That is not what this is about. I may be giving them way to much credit, I hope some similance of commen sense would come into play. {I'm probably wrong, as the law is the law however.} What I'm talking about is chain sawing mature living trees off points and dragging them out into navigatable waterways. If you get a chance just go from Baxter Marina to Campbell Point and look at the deep bluffends off the North side. Trees up to a foot in diameter were not hand cut, but chain sawed and drug out leaving 3 to 4 ft. stumps on the points. These are some of the best deep cedar points, on all of Table Rock Lake. On any of them you can catch fish, some of the time. This area is very close to my heart as it is where I have fished since the early 70's. I hate to say, getting close to 40 years now. To see them treated like this really is a crime. I know I fuss alot about the Shell Knob area, but it is my home and I can fuss if I want. Big boats and big traffic is a problem, but it saddens me to think that fishermen would cut these beautiful trees, really for no reason, and drag them into a location that is really useless. Like Crappie said, enough is enough and that is my last comment on this. Let's all try and do better, our grand children will really appreciate it. Best to all and good luck out there. BB http://whiteriveroutfitters.com http://whiteriverlodgebb.com
Whack'emGood Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I agree with you on this Bill, 100%... I, however, hope it is not illegal to bring brush from home and sink it in the lake. We have been doing it a long time and nobody has ever said anything to us. One day while I was unloading some from the back of my truck on the Mill Creek ramp and putting it in the boat, a worker who was burning brush trimmed from the campground told me I could take as much of the brush he was fixing to burn as I wanted and drop it in also. I assumed he was a Corp. worker... a nice gesture from a nice guy nonetheless. Whack'em "Success builds confidence, and you have to learn to trust your instincts and forget about fishing the way a tournament is supposed to be won. I'm going to fish my style and make it work for me." -KEVIN VANDAM "Confidence is the best lure in your tackle box." -GERALD SWINDLE "A-Rig? Thanks, but no thanks. If I can't catch them on the conventional tackle that I already use, then I guess I just can't catch them." -LK (WHACK'EM)
KCRIVERRAT Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 My father-in-law and I sunk christmas trees for years in a little cove below his place in Hardman Hollow. Weighted them down too. Like Bill said, that's OK. The corp won't jam you for that. Wondering this though... remember the high water? When was it... last year or the year before? Noticed lot's of people in the Knob area dragging whole trees that had gotten hung up on their docks draggin' them out to the middle of the lake and leaving them there. You can't do that can you? I was hoping water patrol would come by, but in every incident, never did. HUMAN RELATIONS MANAGER @ OZARK FISHING EXPEDITIONS
rps Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 what is odd - a year or two before the high water every thing was waaay low on TR. several of the pvc structures were planted up here during the low water always have wondered if they paid off for those who placed them?
skeeter Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 I know exactly the points you are referring to and that is some of the most pristine, wild and untouched land you can still find. I wonder why in the world someone would do this ? Those trees sound like they were very large and they had to make a lot of racket doing this and also can't help but wonder how in the world they pulled the downed trees off the rocky points and out into the lake ? It would take something like a workboat to do that with a big engine and a prop pitched for pulling or pushing a lot of weight. Once they are in the water, Sycamores make lousy structure and don't really hold or attract fish. Crappiefisherman posted about the dead trees from the flood at Bull and we're seeing those on the shorelines around TR now too. Noticed a big and I mean a BIG old oak that had, somehow, leafed out this Spring and then died on the East bank just 1/4 mile South of Goose Cove point (15). It would be tempting for us to ask the Corps to drop those into the water for cover but they are very beneficial just leaving them alone as those "snags" will provide much needed habitat for woodpeckers and other birds and Woody needs food and a home.
Members tpierce Posted September 2, 2009 Members Posted September 2, 2009 I agree with you on this Bill, 100%... I, however, hope it is not illegal to bring brush from home and sink it in the lake. We have been doing it a long time and nobody has ever said anything to us. One day while I was unloading some from the back of my truck on the Mill Creek ramp and putting it in the boat, a worker who was burning brush trimmed from the campground told me I could take as much of the brush he was fixing to burn as I wanted and drop it in also. I assumed he was a Corp. worker... a nice gesture from a nice guy nonetheless. Whack'em I too hope it's not illegal to plant our own brush, I'm pretty sure it's not, because our club has planted hundreds of piles over the last several years with the support of Bass Pro and recognition from BASS. I think this is a Cutting issue, nothing more. Tucker
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