Divers Take Note

[Smalliebigs]

Tim,

With all due respect, I don't go for the adrenaline rush when fishing with my jet boat, I know many do, but they probably aren't the people on this forum. I also know that I can run and fish all day long on 6 gallons of fuel. I'm also not sure a person in a kayak can out fish people with a jet boat. But that's another forum topic.

Mitch you are on the cusp of opening the proverbial can of worms with that one...I love it!!! I'll take Mitch in my boat against any two kayaks straight up.Most combined total weight of five fish wins.

[FishinCricket]

Mitch you are on the cusp of opening the proverbial can of worms with that one...I love it!!! I'll take Mitch in my boat against any two kayaks straight up.Most combined total weight of five fish wins.

We do it on the Osage Fork or the Upper Gasconade, and you're on! Can we count goggleeye too?

(whatever it takes to get you on the river)

[Al Agnew]

So are we supposed to sell our jet boats???? never run my two stroke Evinrude outboard jet any more?? Sell my new SeaArk with the nice new four stroke Suzuki???....Guilt myself into not using gas anymore???

What about all of the develpoing countries of the world who will soon be burning more fossil fuels the the US, like China and India, who treat the enviroment like it's whiping boy???

I have been recycling like a fiend since 1997, we only throw away one bag of solid waste away a month and thats only because it starts smelling to bad. I involve myself in several different trash pickups in Saint Louis County and in Kirkwood, we have "Trash Bashes". I also am a member of three stream teams, dedicated to cleaning specific creeks and streams, everyone here are familiar with those.

I have three vehicles that comsume gas and all three can tow a boat. I am not going to guilt myself for having a trucks, I have boats that need to be trailered and I have land that needs to be worked and maintained.

Maybe someday there will be electrical machinery that will fit my needs???

I was never questioning whether it's possible that the industrial revolution created by man is causing global warming. Hey it's possible.I just think that when Justin mentioned Al Gore it's super cereal stuff.

The link he provided I though also had a bit of an angle or at the very least an agenda prior to publishing.I like a little more neutral slant.

I won't guilt myself for beeing a boater and a commuter.

You raise a point that's often thrown out there by the deniers, but they usually imply that everybody who is worried about global warming should get rid of all their cars, never fly, and go live in a cave somewhere so they don't have a carbon footprint.

Thing is, this is something where individual action only goes so far, and that's not very far. You cannot expect people to give up things that would cause them real, serious hardship, unless it's to the point where EVERYBODY has to give up those things. I ain't gonna give up my jetboat, either, even though I don't use it all that much, and like Mitch, don't use it to joyride but only to get me to where I want to fish. And I have three vehicles as well, although one's a Prius that gets 45-50 mpg and my towing vehicle gets about 25 mpg (except for when I'm actually using it to tow my boat). The third is the truck we leave out in Montana. We recycle everything we can, use CF light bulbs, and basically do everything that doesn't cause us an actual hardship to reduce our carbon footprint, but we know we're still producing more CO2 than a lot of people around the world.

No, the only way that real progress is going to happen is when we get serious about replacing the energy we get from fossil fuels with other forms of energy. In the meantime, there are a lot of places where institutions, companies, even cities can reduce energy use or switch to less polluting forms of energy, all of which require either some kind of government incentives or a change in mindset. The change in mindset will come when energy costs go through the roof, as they eventually will if we keep depending upon oil.

But none of that is something that you or me as individuals can do much about. We are at the mercy, to a great extent, of our leadership, and our leadership has been failing us for a long time.

[Chief Grey Bear]

We do it on the Osage Fork or the Upper Gasconade, and you're on! Can we count goggleeye too?

(whatever it takes to get you on the river)

Jeeze Luweeze. Close your mouth and wipe your chin.

[FishinCricket]

Jeeze Luweeze. Close your mouth and wipe your chin.

Shut yer piehole, Chief... Can'tcha see I'm a-courtin' here...

[Chief Grey Bear]

Mitch you are on the cusp of opening the proverbial can of worms with that one...I love it!!! I'll take Mitch in my boat against any two kayaks straight up.Most combined total weight of five fish wins.

Well put your money where your mouth is. Your jet and Mitch against me and a yet to be picked partner and my canoe and I pick the water.

Shut yer piehole, Chief... Can'tcha see I'm a-courtin' here...

Talk nice and I'll pick you. But I don't want you throwing this thing just because of your teenage lustful infatuation.

[FishinCricket]

Talk nice and I'll pick you. But I don't want you throwing this thing just because of your teenage lustful infatuation.

You know I'm a fish magnet... You'd pick me even if I didn't play nice, just so you'll have a chance at takin' em...

But make no mistake about shy I'd be throwing this shin dig.. I have yet to fish with Smallie or Mitch, this seems like a perfect opportunity...

[Chief Grey Bear]

I have no doubt about your fishing prowess. It is your allegiance to the brotherhood of MFU that I am concerned with. I have concerns that you may submit in order to be near self proclaimed greatness.

[Mitch f]

You know I'm a fish magnet... You'd pick me even if I didn't play nice, just so you'll have a chance at takin' em...

But make no mistake about shy I'd be throwing this shin dig.. I have yet to fish with Smallie or Mitch, this seems like a perfect opportunity...

Hey, I'm not the one who got this thing started, I was volunteered! back peddle, back peddle

[Chief Grey Bear]

Ah com'on Mitch. It'll be a hoot.

BTW it is back PADDLE, back PADDLE. He very sternly stated it was not a PADDLEboat.