Wayne SW/MO Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 So where are we supposed to be getting all the uranium etc. to power these nuclear plants? Right now it looks as if Kazakhstan is the worlds leader in uranium mining. That again is in the same region in which we are currently fighting a war for oil and gas. Shall we continue our wars for energy or should we find alternative sources we can produce right here in the USA? You sure do a great job of dodging. Yes Kazakhstan is number one, but did you notice that Canada was second and Australia three? Maybe you're suffering from the dreaded Rushbeckian:lol::lol: Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Gary Lange Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 You sure do a great job of dodging. Yes Kazakhstan is number one, but did you notice that Canada was second and Australia three? Maybe you're suffering from the dreaded Rushbeckian:lol::lol: Where are we fighting Wars for energy? This seems to elude me! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Respect your Environment and others right to use it!
Outside Bend Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 All of the alternatives that you mention have severe limitations. Even with those "severe limitations," China plans to be off fossil fuels by 2030, based largely on wind power. Even with those "severe limitations," 85% of Brazil's energy is produced domestically using renewable energy. Even with those "severe limitations," 81% of Iceland's domestic energy is renewable. Even with those "severe limitations," 99% of Costa Rica's domestic energy is renewable. Even with those "severe limitations," 90% of domestic hot water in Israel, and 99% of domestic hot water in Greece, is generated via solar poewr. Even with those "severe limitations," several regions of Spain are 100% energy independent, with all their energy coming from renewables. Even with those "severe limitations," many European nations have made significant steps toward energy independence using renewable technology. You guys keep saying it can't be done, yet there are people out there doing it. I guess those severe limitations aren't as severe as some folks imagine. If you, and many others, believe that we are in a race to save the planet from ourselves, why would anyone want to fore go proven generation methods? Hydroelectric, coal, natural gas and nuclear are proven and able to meet demands. What's unproven about green energy? Either a turbine produces electricity, or it doesn't. Windmills and waterwheels are thousands of years old, and work on the same principles as modern-day wind turbines, hydropower and geothermal plants. You and I and the fossil fuels we burn are all various packets of solar energy. Harnessing wind and water to do work for us humans is as old as civilization itself, and in many ways is far more proven than any internal combustion engine or nuclear reactor. Green technology isn't new, it's centuries old, scientists are just modifying it to suit today's needs. <{{{><
gotmuddy Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Spiderman, you realize that country is over a thousand miles away from Iraq? Even with those "severe limitations," China plans to be off fossil fuels by 2030, based largely on wind power.plans are not the same as reality Even with those "severe limitations," 85% of Brazil's energy is produced domestically using renewable energy.Brazil has done a great job using sugar cane to make ethanol, however a vast majority of their population lives in squalor and has no need for power Even with those "severe limitations," 81% of Iceland's domestic energy is renewable. Even with those "severe limitations," 99% of Costa Rica's domestic energy is renewable. Even with those "severe limitations," 90% of domestic hot water in Israel, and 99% of domestic hot water in Greece, is generated via solar poewr. Even with those "severe limitations," several regions of Spain are 100% energy independent, with all their energy coming from renewables. Even with those "severe limitations," many European nations have made significant steps toward energy independence using renewable technology. You guys keep saying it can't be done, yet there are people out there doing it. I guess those severe limitations aren't as severe as some folks imagine. What's unproven about green energy? Either a turbine produces electricity, or it doesn't. Windmills and waterwheels are thousands of years old, and work on the same principles as modern-day wind turbines, hydropower and geothermal plants. You and I and the fossil fuels we burn are all various packets of solar energy. Harnessing wind and water to do work for us humans is as old as civilization itself, and in many ways is far more proven than any internal combustion engine or nuclear reactor. Green technology isn't new, it's centuries old, scientists are just modifying it to suit today's needs. everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.
flytyer57 Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Spiderman, you realize that country is over a thousand miles away from Iraq? Allow me to repost with a highlight of something you missed. So where are we supposed to be getting all the uranium etc. to power these nuclear plants? Right now it looks as if Kazakhstan is the worlds leader in uranium mining. That again is in the same region in which we are currently fighting a war for oil and gas. Shall we continue our wars for energy or should we find alternative sources we can produce right here in the USA? The USA is over 1000 miles from coast to coast, but it is all still one in region. As is Kazakhstan, Iraq, and Afghanistan in one region. There's a fine line between fishing and sitting there looking stupid.
Justin Spencer Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Good points OB, if others can do it, so can we, but many other countries aren't used to our "quality of life" and therefore are willing to pay more for power. We feel cheap energy is a right not a priveledge and complain about prices, including about gas, when it is still much cheaper than in Europe. Simple fact is that we are spoiled, and I'm afraid our complacency is starting to catch up with us. Lucky for me people always seem to need a cheap vacation and camping and floating is as cheap as it gets. "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
gotmuddy Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Allow me to repost with a highlight of something you missed. So where are we supposed to be getting all the uranium etc. to power these nuclear plants? Right now it looks as if Kazakhstan is the worlds leader in uranium mining. That again is in the same region in which we are currently fighting a war for oil and gas. Shall we continue our wars for energy or should we find alternative sources we can produce right here in the USA? The USA is over 1000 miles from coast to coast, but it is all still one in region. As is Kazakhstan, Iraq, and Afghanistan in one region. Apples do not equal oranges this from wiki: Kazakhstan has stable relationships with all of its neighbors. Kazakhstan is also a member of the United Nations, Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council and Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC). It is an active participant in the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Partnership for Peace program. everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.
Tim Smith Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Kazakhstan has stable relationships with all of its neighbors. Kazakhstan is also a member of the United Nations, Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council and Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC). It is an active participant in the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation Partnership for Peace program. ....all other countries run by little girls.
gotmuddy Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Good points OB, if others can do it, so can we, but many other countries aren't used to our "quality of life" and therefore are willing to pay more for power. We feel cheap energy is a right not a priveledge and complain about prices, including about gas, when it is still much cheaper than in Europe. Simple fact is that we are spoiled, and I'm afraid our complacency is starting to catch up with us. Lucky for me people always seem to need a cheap vacation and camping and floating is as cheap as it gets. The reason fuel is so much more expensive in europe is because taxes are ridiculous. America is like a heroine addict with oil. To get off heroine we need methadone(nuclear, solar, wind) until we can truly get sober(something to replace oil that isn't as harmful) everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.
Mitch f Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 This video is "right side" leaning but it's still pretty informative "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
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