The He! With It

[mic]

As I have said before I owe a lot to what Phil, Dano and OAF have done for me. It has given me the opportunity to fish with some of the best fishermen in the world and learn many new techniques. It has also given me the opportunity to meet a whole new group of fishing buddies. And even though we have only known each other for a short period of time they feel more like brothers to me than just fishing buddies. You know who you guys are and I'll love ya till the day I die.

Wow...I thought I was the only one that ate up. Between you and the trout commander...I need to find a job in Springfield. I'm just to far away from the "good stuff". Anyone need an experienced project manager.

Thanks again to all.

[troutfiend1985]

I say post the pic. Post the whole report, I would love to read it. The only parts I wouldn't mention is the exact or really even general locations. Like Phil said, Crane is no secret. But all I would say is I was fishing at Crane and leave it at that. I personally think when it comes to Crane, the locals, those in a 30 minute radius that gets worse as you get closer, are the hardest on the stream. And there isn't any stopping them. But also like eric said, there are some lurkers out there, so beware.

Just wanting to make sure that my humor got through on the post.

I would post it, but the problem is that 1. I'm lazy and 2. the pic would be pretty easy to figure out where it was just because of the surroundings.

However, having said all that I do wonder how much effect a picture like that would cause. These trout in Blue Ribbon Streams that get big do so for a reason, they're spooky.

[Trout Commander]

"She" is learning. She does alright in the yard, but still is trying to figure out what to do on the water. She is still trying to learn what to do with the slack line that happens as fly and line come back at her. I'm thinking about getting her in a class this spring. Like most kids she takes direction from others better then from me. Plus I'm just learning myself. I will tell you this...its worth the wait.

LOL DUH. I did read the report I promise! I have trouble with line control on the water myself sometimes too, and I haven't been fly fishing too long either. You guys won't get any judgment from me, but I am sure we could trade pointers. Also, the Bass Pro here in town offers free casting lessons, and I bet they also skim the surface of line control on the water. Even if you guys are competent casters I bet it would still be worth it to see if your nearest store offers anything similar. It's something I will do on a day that I have an a.m. free but not enough time for a fishing trip.

[Trout Commander]

Just wanting to make sure that my humor got through on the post.

I would post it, but the problem is that 1. I'm lazy and 2. the pic would be pretty easy to figure out where it was just because of the surroundings.

However, having said all that I do wonder how much effect a picture like that would cause. These trout in Blue Ribbon Streams that get big do so for a reason, they're spooky.

This has gone on long enough.

Pics or it didn't happen.

(I hope my humor made it through as well)

[flyfishmaster]

mic,

Brush off all the bashing you have received and don’t let the written words on a forum change what you want to say either.

Most of time when I post a fishing report I will indicate what files I used and the size. Fishing is a sport and if you don’t have a good coach on your side you may just give it up due to frustration. When writing a report I feel like that coach. I can give a fellow fisherman all the tools thye need but that does not mean they will catch any fish. It still takes “their” talent to present the fly/lure in the exact spot in order for a fish to eat.

So I tell you what, the next time you are heading down to BSC and need a fishing partner I can meet you Columbia, IL then venture down to BSC to tackle the “Double L” section including the "Honey Hole".

Later

FFM

[eric1978]

But Phil is right, Crane is talked about a lot on many different forums and in many different publications. It's about as big a secret as Table Rock Lake.

Not trying to start a whole big thing here...

But why advertise it even more? You can post an entertaining fishing report without mentioning a location. An anecdote about your day and a couple pictures is much more interesting than "went here, used this fly, caught x number of fish."

It's not about "greed" or "jealousy" as someone mentioned earlier...it's only about recognizing the fact that certain small streams simply don't need any more pressure. That's all. Obviously people have the right to mention names and say whatever they want...I just question the wisdom of doing so. The world is getting hotter, flatter and more crowded by the minute. No point in exacerbating the problem.

I said before, I like mic's reports...they're good ones and he usually adds a pic or two which doubles their value, and I hope he continues to post them...it just wouldn't break my heart if I didn't see the names of fragile fisheries in the titles of threads...

...and I'd hardly call that "bashing."

[Flysmallie]

Eric, that's fine. Like I said before I think everyone should be entitled to their opinion. But I for one like to know where someone is fishing. Don't need any specifics just the name of the stream. It just makes more sense to me that way. If a trip report isn't going to include the location, tactics used and a few pics of the surroundings then it's useless to post. I couldn't care less if I never see another fish pic without some background. It's pointless to me. But that's my opinion.

And I wouldn't go so far as to call Crane fragile. Small yes, fragile?? Yeah I don't know. Those fish have made it this long...Still wish MDC would make it C&R but that probably wouldn't change anything for the locals.

Try googling "Crane Creek Missouri", it's hardly a secret. But I understand what you are saying and I commend you for that. That's what makes you one of the good guys.

[Phil Lilley]

Am I right? Didn't Crane all but dry up sometime ago? Even the biologists thought the McCloud strain was finished. Big sections of it disappeared altogether because of a drought--and that's in recent memory. That's not going back almost 100 years of droughts and floods and still the little rainbow thrives in Crane. I didn't think this would go on or I would have mentioned it before. Crane's fishery is not fragile. Report your fishing trip on Crane- that's totally up to the angler. One out of 100 people who fish Crane don't write reports and post them on forums. The tiny fraction that do won't hurt it.

That's just my observation and opinion. It's not better than anyone else's opinion though.

[eric1978]

And I wouldn't go so far as to call Crane fragile. Small yes, fragile?? Yeah I don't know. Those fish have made it this long...

Well it may have proven to be resiliant, but it's still certainly overfished for its size. It would be a much healthier fishery if the number of its annual anglers was cut in half, or if anglers would only visit once a year or so instead of 2 or 3 or 10 times...and if leaving out the name of a creek has a tiny impact by not reminding someone else they need to go fish there again soon, that's a good thing if you ask me. It may be a drop in the bucket compared to other problems a small stream faces, but it's something. Humans are great at screwing up anything they get near, so IMO, the fewer humans messing with a little creek like that, the better.

[Flysmallie]

Well it may have proven to be resiliant, but it's still certainly overfished for its size. It would be a much healthier fishery if the number of its annual anglers was cut in half, or if anglers would only visit once a year or so instead of 2 or 3 or 10 times...and if leaving out the name of a creek has a tiny impact by not reminding someone else they need to go fish there again soon, that's a good thing if you ask me. It may be a drop in the bucket compared to other problems a small stream faces, but it's something. Humans are great at screwing up anything they get near, so IMO, the fewer humans messing with a little creek like that, the better.

You just reminded me that I haven't been there in awhile. I'll try to hit it a few times this week.