fishinwrench Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 LOL......Ron, I don't think I would be to worried about an MFU member questioning your abilities and I really do like your response...........The Unit knows all and is wise........ha SB, if you've done much flyfishing for bass I'm interested to hear if the majority of your success came from dragging flys along the bottom. There was never any question that bass, LM/SM either one, do the bulk of their feeding closer to the rocks than to the sky...pretty sure we all know that without discussing it. But as far as flyfishing goes, bottom dragging techniques with fly gear are way harder to master and generally a last ditch effort. Regardless of who a person is a "member" of. If I'm guiding/teaching someone to flyfish for smallmouth the last thing I'm gonna do is rig them up with a lead-eyed crawdad fly and hope a fish trips over it.
Trout Commander Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 SB, if you've done much flyfishing for bass I'm interested to hear if the majority of your success came from dragging flys along the bottom. There was never any question that bass, LM/SM either one, do the bulk of their feeding closer to the rocks than to the sky...pretty sure we all know that without discussing it. But as far as flyfishing goes, bottom dragging techniques with fly gear are way harder to master and generally a last ditch effort. Regardless of who a person is a "member" of. If I'm guiding/teaching someone to flyfish for smallmouth the last thing I'm gonna do is rig them up with a lead-eyed crawdad fly and hope a fish trips over it. But when you are an all knowing guide, you tell people the opposite of what they should do, in hopes of drumming up business for yourself. I don't know why it took me so long to figure it out. If he makes the learning curve miles longer for the people on OAF trying to learn he will, in theory, get more business. Gotta be the only logical answer. I have spent most of my money on fly fishing and beer. The rest I just wasted. The latest Trout Commander blog post: Niangua River Six Pack
mic Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 But when you are an all knowing guide, you tell people the opposite of what they should do, in hopes of drumming up business for yourself. I don't know why it took me so long to figure it out. If he makes the learning curve miles longer for the people on OAF trying to learn he will, in theory, get more business. Gotta be the only logical answer. TC...that's just wrong...but funny.
Trout Commander Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 TC...that's just wrong...but funny. It's ingenious on his part really. But seriously, why would a person patent a topwater fly and then go on about how topwater fly fishing is inferior? I have spent most of my money on fly fishing and beer. The rest I just wasted. The latest Trout Commander blog post: Niangua River Six Pack
Mitch f Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Because I'm primarily a cold water fisherman, my biggest fish have always been caught in the lowest 1/3 of the water column. Like Al said, if you mostly fish smalller rivers in the summer, or do a lot of night fishing, topwater can be just as good or much better. Topwater tends to catch the most active fish, but when the fish are off slightly, a bottom banger will definately outperform topwater. So if I only had one lure to put the odds in my favor to catch a big fish, I would agree with Ron. The odds are on the rivers I fish (which are mostly bigger jetboatable rivers) the biggest are going to come near the bottom. Summer is for golfing anyway :have-a-nice-day: "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Wheatenheimer Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Big Smallie's can always be found in extreme deep water in the rivers. Check out this Bottom dwelling monster I landed last Summer in Wilson's Creek. Check out the gig marks.
fishinwrench Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Because I'm primarily a cold water fisherman, my biggest fish have always been caught in the lowest 1/3 of the water column. Like Al said, if you mostly fish smalller rivers in the summer, or do a lot of night fishing, topwater can be just as good or much better. Topwater tends to catch the most active fish, but when the fish are off slightly, a bottom banger will definately outperform topwater. So if I only had one lure to put the odds in my favor to catch a big fish, I would agree with Ron. The odds are on the rivers I fish (which are mostly bigger jetboatable rivers) the biggest are going to come near the bottom. Summer is for golfing anyway :have-a-nice-day: What FLIES and technique are you using in the bottom 1/3 of the water column ? This thread got all F'ed up because some of us are talking flyfishing techniques while others are apparently referring to gear. Hell yeah if I'm gear fishing I am all over the bottom with jigs and plastics. But if I'm flyfishing (like this thread originally was referring to) then the least productive method is attempting to drag fur, feathers, and hair along the bottom and detect the bites in time to do something about it.
Mitch f Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Big Smallie's can always be found in extreme deep water in the rivers. Check out this Bottom dwelling monster I landed last Summer in Wilson's Creek. Check out the gig marks. That my friend is a toad! How long was it? Wrench, please forgive everyone of us who got it wrong. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
FishinCricket Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 That my friend is a toad! How long was it? Wrench, please forgive everyone of us who got it wrong. Looks like its about 29 inches... Wrench doesn't forgive, he eats that sheite up.. He's a MFUkin honey badger!! cricket.c21.com
Mitch f Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Still want to know how big it was Wheat? and what did you catch it on? no gig marks because you cant get a jet on the river prolly "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
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