Jackson Coosa In The St. Francis

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Oh yea... I'm hating.

LOL...... my point was as soon as anyone claims a product is good on this forum

Oh good, I thought you were making fun of me because it is flat as Kansas where I live, and I work in a building with no windows. Just so we understand each other.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Not true Smalliebigs, as usual, and all I said about your sneaky commercial was that I wouldn't call it "Very impressive". Did you think members wouldn't be smart enough to notice that your post was from a commercial interest? Try being a little more forthright like the others who have legitimate services of interest.

I see a lot of good features on the Coosa, some identical to the Tarpon and probably taken from it. The thing is many on here and you're one of them want everyone to think it's the only SOT an intelligent person would buy. It depends on the intended use.

As for the wannabe, I've probably run more class IV than you've seen.

[OzarksRiverman]

This thread is the Tommy DeVito of yak threads

[Stoneroller]

wayne, please be specific as to what 'features' you are saying the coosa took from the tarpon. What's funny is that you are trying to compare a flatwater kayak to a river specific kayak. I'm not sure where this idea that the coosa borrowed design elements from the tarpon came from but it's flat false. the coosa was developed from a whitewater hull. The features that make it unique are just that, unique features. meaning they are not shared with any other boat. (outside of other jackson designs).

neither smallie, nor I are saying it's the "only" SOT to buy. We are saying its the best river fishing kayak on the market. I wont argue that the tarpon is a fine kayak for open water, as is my trident.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Whitewater yaks have hard sterns? The rear stern design and the runnels are very much reminiscent of the Tarpon. Don't WW yaks tend to be sit-ins? Rocker does make for better response,but poorer tracking and that would make the Coosa a better float yak. The Tarpon, while not a true flat water as you call it, does appear to have an advantage in tracking. This would make it a better choice for the lone fishermen who puts in, paddles up, and floats back or intends to fish flatwater and paddle some distance..

Any craft that is very responsive will track poorly and eat up energy on long paddles. There's always some comprimise.

That's why anyone interested in yak should choose carefully and match it the task, rather than buying what someone who doesn't know what's needed recommends.

[Trout Commander]

We are saying its the best river fishing kayak on the market.

Have you guys paddled any of the Diablo yaks? This post isn't meant to be confrontational if it comes across that way...

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You all are wound to tight.

[ness]

Since we're all being real open with our feelings, l believe I'll chime in with a few thoughts:

1) Wayne said nothing more than he didn't think it was all that impressive. Hardly an attack. It really wasn't sooo impressive. Maybe re-watch the video?

2) Dudes don't call dudes b******. It's just not done. B*****s are b******s, not dudes. Do I need to send you a manual?

C) Saying a real good paddler said it was impressive isn't exactly rock-solid evidence for your contention. The video is the evidence.

4) Stoneroller: I see you've got a business. If you want to look like a real business, and not some internet stalker, I suggest you insert your real name and phone number right above 'Owner/President'.

5) ...then, hit the enter key and delete either Owner or President. C'mon, man -- You're a guy with a kayak and a web site.

6) I see you have registered with the Secretary of State. Congrats James, that lends some credibility to things.

No hard feelings fellers, but when you come in here with an exaggerated statement, lose your cool, start name calling, and resort to challenges rather that well thought out arguments you're just not gonna fare well here.

Good luck with your venture.

[Stoneroller]

ness, thanks for the pointers. when you start your own business, you can do things the way you want to do them. I started my own business so I can do things the way I see fit to do them. Nice observations, but who is the internet stalker? At any rate, Wayne has made numerous statements in other posts about the coosa and that is what I am refering too.

and wayne, so every kayak that has a hard stern is based off the tarpon? might want to check on when the tarpon was released to the market. Ocena Kayak (the company) has been pioneering sit on tops since the early 70's. Wilderness Systems has only been around since 1985. So the Tarpon is actually a copy of an Ocean Kayak. As I've said, time and time again. the Tarpon is a fine flatwater boat, and works ok for flowing water. Hell one of my friends took his 16 foot tarpon down the Courtois last summer, didn't really have any problems. He fought the boat the entire time but made it down river with no real issues. Any of us could float a river on a raft of reeds or 2x4's but would that be the best way? I will say I really like the track system and the seat on the tarpon. the front hatch is really secure. it has probably the biggest tank well of any boat in it's size range. lots to like about it. I just don't prefer it as a river yak.

Trout, I've not floated a diablo, but I do like their designs. two things that I see with their boats that might be of concern. first the width, great for stability but there is a limit to how wide you want your boat. It's not a deal breaker but they are wider than other yaks out there. second would be the amount of freeboard they have. I've not see one fully loaded on the water so i'm not sure how much they actually have, and when it's warm it's not a big deal but when it's not that might suck. but those are simply opinions based on what i've seen and partial speculation. the diablo boats kind of blur the line between a SUP and a SOT. which i think is pretty neat.

[Stoneroller]

i'm not just a guy with a kayak. I'm 'The Dude' of kayak fishing. and I have 3 yaks, otherwise it would be really tough to guide.