Old Town Guide 119

[fishinSWMO]

The odysseys are awesome boats. I haven't paddled the solo 13 or 14. I think they might be more of a whitewater boat.

Thanks, hopefully I can get one this year. I was thinking the odyssey would probably fit better since it's a little bigger. I still haven't quit growing yet it seems.

[Guest]

I can't agree more Andy.....two rods. There are guys I fish with that will bring everything but the kitchen sink with them....6 rods??? I have to simplfy things in my older age.....two rods

I know I bring too much crap, my tackle bag probably weighs 25 pounds. After beer, food and camping gear, it gets a little cramped. It It looks like Al and Randy have good setups that you could replicate.

[Al Agnew]

Actually the Odyssey 14 is more of whitewater design. It's deeper (higher sides) and has some rocker. It will be a little more maneuverable than the Solo 14, a little drier ride is bigger waves, and a little higher volume. Either one would make a pretty good solo for Ozark streams, but if it were me, I'd probably opt for the Solo 14, unless you plan on doing some mild whitewater. Oddly, the Odyssey 15 is a very different design than the Odyssey 14, with less rocker and lower ends. It's more of a high volume touring solo, with good tracking ability and less inherent maneuverability. It would be great for solo overnight trips on most Ozark streams, but it's big enough that I wouldn't want it simply because of the weight. Having a solo that weighs up in the 50-60 pound range is defeating one of the reasons for having a solo.

[Guest]

Actually the Odyssey 14 is more of whitewater design. It's deeper (higher sides) and has some rocker. It will be a little more maneuverable than the Solo 14, a little drier ride is bigger waves, and a little higher volume. Either one would make a pretty good solo for Ozark streams, but if it were me, I'd probably opt for the Solo 14, unless you plan on doing some mild whitewater. Oddly, the Odyssey 15 is a very different design than the Odyssey 14, with less rocker and lower ends. It's more of a high volume touring solo, with good tracking ability and less inherent maneuverability. It would be great for solo overnight trips on most Ozark streams, but it's big enough that I wouldn't want it simply because of the weight. Having a solo that weighs up in the 50-60 pound range is defeating one of the reasons for having a solo.

I didn't know that about the odyssey 14's. Thanks for the clarification. I have only paddled the odyssey 15, and I loved it. So much so, it will be the next boat I buy.

[Wayne SW/MO]

I have a Mohawk Solo 13. I like it and have no complaints. It's very manueverable, which of course means it's mediocre in the tracking department. It has excellent secondary stability and I've never had a problem keeping the gunwhales up.

The two biggest pros, weight and manuervability.

[Al Agnew]

I have a Mohawk Solo 13. I like it and have no complaints. It's very manueverable, which of course means it's mediocre in the tracking department. It has excellent secondary stability and I've never had a problem keeping the gunwhales up.

The two biggest pros, weight and manuervability.

Wayne, I've paddled the Solo 13 several times. I'd buy it over the Pack or the Guide 119 any day. It's comparable to those two canoes but better. Of course, it's hard for many to pass up the price on those 119s, but the Mohawk is a better boat. The Solo 14 tracks better; it's the same width at the waterline as the Solo 13 and the extra foot of length really helps in tracking. Although I really like my Vagabond, I wouldn't rule out getting a Solo 14 instead the next time I was in the market for a solo. The Vagabond is a bit narrower (meaning less primary stability--it feels a little more squirrelly) and has lower ends by two inches, so it tracks a bit better and is a little less affected by wind. Other than that the two canoes are pretty similar.

[eric1978]

Wayne's Mohawk is a very cool canoe...and it's white...how often do you see that? He's gonna give it to me one day.

[fishinSWMO]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm looking forward to trying out a solo canoe soon.

My boys are about big enough to put them together in their own boat and fish.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm looking forward to trying out a solo canoe soon.

My boys are about big enough to put them together in their own boat and fish.

If I were you I would look at a Guide 147. It would be a good boat for a couple of youngsters. It is heavy, but they should be able to handle it. It shouldn't break you buying a good used one either.

[grizwilson]

If you are interested my Uncle has a old town guide 14 7 in very good shape that just hangs in his shed, rarely uses, will get you a price.