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I can imagine one scenario: I boat manufacturer rep is trying to get a contract from a law enforcement agency, maybe water patrol. The rep claims his boat can go where no other can. The rep then demonstrates that his boat can in fact go where no other would dare, he wins a lucrative contract that justifies trashing a single boat.That reminds me, a while back I seen Mo Water Patrol run up Meramec in a sparkling new River Pro.

His father touches the Claw in spite of Kevin's warnings and breaks two legs just as a thunderstorm tears the house apart. Kevin runs away with the Claw. He becomes captain of the Greasy Bastard, a small ship carrying rubber goods between England and Burma. Michael Palin, Terry Jones, 1974

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Well, glad no happened to be canoeing or kayaking down one of those twisty, narrow riffles when those guys came through...Otherwise we'd be hearing about this on the news.

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the best thing to do is outlaw them before they can become a problem.... after all, once they appear, they are harder to get rid of after the fact..... No need for this type of boating in Missouri. What is the difference between this and vandalism or property damage? Its no different than running a 1000 horsepower swamp buggy or jacked up truck through the river. This is the same rough crowd that thinks 4 wheeling through everyone's state parks and private property is o.k. and doesn't harm anything. I can just picture the stream damage in the wake of this new type of boating.... These people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Hope Missouri residents, state agencies and enforcement do not put up with this crap.

"In golf as in life it is the follow through that makes the difference."-unknown

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Hope Missouri residents, state agencies and enforcement do not put up with this crap.

Too late. We have them,They are a problem and we do put up with that kind of crap.

His father touches the Claw in spite of Kevin's warnings and breaks two legs just as a thunderstorm tears the house apart. Kevin runs away with the Claw. He becomes captain of the Greasy Bastard, a small ship carrying rubber goods between England and Burma. Michael Palin, Terry Jones, 1974

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Wow,

I met these guys at the St.louis boat show about tens years back and was contacting them about the 1875 extreme shallow model. I'll have to drive to Canada to get one, very durable well engineered boat. Some of the best aluminum hulls ever made........lol their hull is the first clip.

http://www.harbercraft.com/jet-boats/

sorry

The second clip is a manfacturer that makes a hull labled the atv of river jets

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Too late. We have them,They are a problem and we do put up with that kind of crap.

I would acknowledge we have jet boats in MO. There are responsible boaters, reckless and in-between. I hope they keep the kind of extreme recreation shown in the video regulated to the most trashed out, lost cause, polluted toilet water rivers, known as the Missouri and Mississippi in this area.

The new breed of meth heads skipping over gravel bars and running in creeks or streams at extreme low levels can and should be prosecuted by law...All it takes is a phone call......This level of motorboat operation is no different than witnessing a drunk weaving all over the road or traveling to fast for conditions....They are dangerous to themselves and anyone in their boat or in the river....a boat is not a license to throw all rules, regulations, decency, safety and common sense to the wind. I am shocked and appalled at such a lack of understanding and respect for ecology, biology, botany, and one's own self. It's sad these folks have not learned or applied anything in their lives other than how to get a thrill out of trashing out personal, private and possibly state or federal property. The act is comparable to watching someone dump crap in community drinking water laughing, and then proceed to hand a glass of it to you and me to take a drink.

All it takes to get these folks prosecuted is for someone to witness, report, or for an agent or officer to be in the right place at the right time.... If anyone witnesses this kind of behavior on our streams get their boat sticker or plate number and report it anonymously to water patrol or the sheriff at the least. Boat plate numbers are required to be clearly posted at the bow on every boat that has a motor in the state of MO. If no boat plate, get your best description or camera phone snapshot of the boat, boat motor and person operating the craft, or even vehicle description and or trailer plates if this happens near a boat launch.

Write your representatives if you would like to see this level of ignorance curbed on our waterways.... The only way our reps know an issue exists is if someone brings it to their attention. Reps don't typically actively look for legislation... trust me, I live across the street from one, and many are not well versed in what happens on the MO waterways.

I'm typically not one for more legislation and rules, but history tells me these select group of adrenaline/meth punks won't go away unless they are run out. Its a violation of our rights they are allowed to destroy our streams, endanger our children or families and help degrade our future camping, fishing, floating trips. Stand up and do something about it. Please report it, as their are no consequences for doing the right thing or be a good steward to our land, waterways and natural resources. Don't let them ruin your vacation or recreational area. All it takes is a phone call..

Case in point: True story:

A friend and I witnessed a weaving drunk driver throw a beer bottle at another vehicle at night on hwy 270 several years ago around 10:00p.m.. I sped up and got the plate # and good description of the vehicle and contacted the local police as soon as I reached my destination... The cops ran a trace and drove to the individuals house across the city at 3:30a.m. They hauled the individual in at that time and the person was prosecuted. They also had to pay for all damages to the other persons car, which totaled more than $3000. They could have killed someone. Long story short, cops and authorities do care... they just can't be everywhere all the time...nor is it efficient to have water patrol running up and down the rivers everywhere all the time...Eyewitness and proactive civilian reports are effective, and do not require additional regulations or cost taxpayers. This action hit the jerks wallet, right where it is noticeable and I didn't spend more than 10 minutes of my time.

Please, if you care about the quality of your future experiences on your waterways, do your part, it only takes a call and a couple of minutes for a piece of mind.

"In golf as in life it is the follow through that makes the difference."-unknown

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Its no different than running a 1000 horsepower swamp buggy or jacked up truck through the river. This is the same rough crowd that thinks 4 wheeling through everyone's state parks and private property is o.k. and doesn't harm anything.

apples and bananas. Honestly I am not surprised to see you say it though. A truck can do immeasurably more damage than that boat, but even then, after a few months you cant tell its been there.

The new breed of meth heads skipping over gravel bars and running in creeks or streams at extreme low levels can and should be prosecuted by law...All it takes is a phone call......This level of motorboat operation is no different than witnessing a drunk weaving all over the road or traveling to fast for conditions....They are dangerous to themselves and anyone in their boat or in the river....a boat is not a license to throw all rules, regulations, decency, safety and common sense to the wind. I am shocked and appalled at such a lack of understanding and respect for ecology, biology, botany, and one's own self. It's sad these folks have not learned or applied anything in their lives other than how to get a thrill out of trashing out personal, private and possibly state or federal property. The act is comparable to watching someone dump crap in community drinking water laughing, and then proceed to hand a glass of it to you and me to take a drink.

Your ignorance astounds me. Show me a study that says dragging the bottom of the boat on a shoal destroys the river. If it does than dragging 1000 canoes per weekend over a shoal surely does the same thing. Before you ask, yes I have a jet boat. It is a massive 14x48 lowe with a equally impressive 25hp mercury.

FWIW, the boat in the vid has the bottom coated with UHMMW plastic. This vid was reposted from Tinboats. Tisk, Tisk smalliebigs.

everything in this post is purely opinion and is said to annoy you.

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UHMMW, now it makes sense. Wonder If I could attach that to my Shawnee?

His father touches the Claw in spite of Kevin's warnings and breaks two legs just as a thunderstorm tears the house apart. Kevin runs away with the Claw. He becomes captain of the Greasy Bastard, a small ship carrying rubber goods between England and Burma. Michael Palin, Terry Jones, 1974

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