Active Shooters In Schools. The Enemy Is Denial.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Or the 90 lb. teacher takes out her gun and shoots the 6th grader in the mouth.

After she picks herself up off of the floor?

[Quillback]

After she picks herself up off of the floor?

Nope, she's tired of his crap and takes pre-emptive action.

[Al Agnew]

Al, short of armed guards at all entrance's you cannot secure a school enough to prevent this and even with armed guards I dont know if you can. A determined Killer will find a way and what if it was multiple shooters? My wifes a teacher but neither her nor I am worried about it happening at her school and if it does we both know the best she can do and others is lock the doors and hope LEO gets there fast enough to minimize the death toll.

I have been following polls on teachers CC at school and almost all of them are 50/50 this nation is so divided on so many issues its sad. I like many have seen the picture of the Israel teacher with the AK on her back and Ive read the stats to go with it. Problem here is our teachers were not in the Military first and trained in combat tactics nor would we ever accept some kids in cross fire acceptable.

Yeah, I know a determined killer will usually find a way. But there are different degrees of "determined-ness". A lot of people are looking for all or nothing solutions, but those are non-existent. We need to be looking at putting various obstacles in the way of the shooter. Each obstacle would discourage some, lessening the chances of this happening again at a given school. Not every would-be mass murderer is willing to face an armed guard, or take the time to go through locked steel doors. Not every one of them wants to fool with making a bomb or knows how and has the materials. Not every one can shoot a handgun accurately or thinks a shotgun is "cool" enough. Each obstacle you put up knocks off a few more of them.

Our country is divided on issues like these because they don't have easy answers. In this case, the country is largely divided between those who are familiar with guns, grew up around them, and use them responsibly, and those who have had little or no experience with guns or who have had a bad experience with them. To a great extent, it's also an urban vs. rural thing. But in this case, NOBODY has all the answers, and too many people are just falling back on the usual talking points..."Get rid of assault rifles; nobody needs them anyway." "Having MORE guns won't make anybody safer, having fewer guns is what we need." "An armed society is a polite society." "Gun-free zones just encourage shooters." And the old standby, "Criminals won't pay any attention to gun laws; we have plenty of laws right now that aren't being enforced." There are elements of truth in every one of those statements, but none of them are much of a help. Let's just take the last one.

The nutjob commented a bunch of felonies in the commission of that evil act. But how many of those felonies are really enforceable before the fact? A gun law is one thing, figuring out how it can be enforced is quite another. Maybe we have enough gun laws, but do we have the RIGHT gun laws?

[Chief Grey Bear]

Nope, she's tired of his crap and takes pre-emptive action.

No problem there. Mouthy kid? Shoot him. Problem solved.