jdmidwest Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 I agree, but insurance companies don't even want to take it to court, costs more than settling. I should just catch and relocate, but always get selfish with my time and take the easy way out. I will try and be better this year, but often either a camper or employee get to them first. By the way, I used to check headboats for the state of florida, did you work on any on the east coast? So you really believe that insurances companies would require you to break the law by killing the snakes? They really can't hold you accountable for acts of nature. Don't get me wrong. I also feel a snake in its place in the wild not disturbing me has the right to go his merry way. But a snake in my space is a threat to my family that has to be dealt with. An attempt to relocate a poison snake would just increase my odds of getting bit, so it gets dealt the other penalty. You do have a right in this state to protect yourself, your family, and your livestock from all threats. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Feathers and Fins Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 No Justin worked the Socal Boats. FL had my own boat and was much older and did not want to deal with the Condo-Comandos! Your insurance company would rather pay-out then fight that's nothing new for insurance companies but doesn't make it right. Put up the signs and have the law on them. I mean seriously what if someone gets stung by a bee or a tick latches on are you going to have to pay for those as well. You relies you have the right to tell the insurance to fight it. People go in to nature there is a reasonable expectation they will encounter it. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
Chief Grey Bear Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Fear of snakes is biblical and hereditary! It is hard to convince someone that has been raised in a religious family that snakes are not bad. Im not kidding or making this about religion I have seen it and seen the surveys and thesis papers on it. Yet they love apples. Go figure. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Chief Grey Bear Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Don't get me wrong. I also feel a snake in its place in the wild not disturbing me has the right to go his merry way. But a snake in my space is a threat to my family that has to be dealt with. An attempt to relocate a poison snake would just increase my odds of getting bit, so it gets dealt the other penalty. You do have a right in this state to protect yourself, your family, and your livestock from all threats. In your space?? The snake has no legs to chase you. It has no arms and hands to grab you with. It only has a mouth to use for its defense. So unless you get in its space, it will have nothing to do with you. It must make one feel pretty manly destroying a creature that is basically defensless. And seeing that deaths to humans from snake bite in this state are practically 0, I don't see where the threat to life is. Sad that the same results can't be the same on the other side. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
ColdWaterFshr Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 And Moses said unto Jebediah, do not lay hands on evil serpents. And the word went out across Canaan. Render unto serpents that which art serpents. Render unto campground owners and guests, that which art campground proprieters and guests. - Leviticus 24: 7
Wayne SW/MO Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 I suppose it depends on ones background. I grew up with snakes and around people who get very upset if a black snake or the like was killed. The snakes kept the rodents in check, took care of vagrant eggs and did only good. The poisonous one were rare and one knew where they should look before they stepped. The other side of the poisonous snake problem is the Copperhead which seems to have a bad habit of staying close to people and you can't teach kids or some dogs to avoid them. So unless you know where to get some kings, there isn't much you can do. Today's release is tomorrows gift to another fisherman.
Members BHowe Posted June 13, 2013 Author Members Posted June 13, 2013 Dang!!! I didn't realize that posting a few pics of a water snake eating lunch was gonna stir up a holy war:), but i reckon it makes for good conversation. BTW, the crappie was too big for the snake to get down so I fed him a ribeye:)
emjay Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Saw a snake this weekend sitting at the bottom of the river while I was wading for smallies. I didnt realize snakes could just sit on the bottom like that. At first I thought it was a stick but then realized it was a snake. It did look similar to the picture posted. Not really fond of snakes so I just got out of the water.
Feathers and Fins Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Hey now if we are going to quote scripture lets use the right one. (Mark 16:17-18) And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Luke 10:19) Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. I have met several of the snake handling pastors and even been to the churches. Very interesting people with deep faith, Highly intelligent people with a very unexplainable closeness to nature. If you have never heard of them do an internet search its pretty interesting reading. Go into it with an open mind not a religious thought and you will get a history lesson of Americana. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Beaver-Lake-Arkansas-Fishing-Report/745541178798856
Flysmallie Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 Saw a snake this weekend sitting at the bottom of the river while I was wading for smallies. I didnt realize snakes could just sit on the bottom like that. At first I thought it was a stick but then realized it was a snake. It did look similar to the picture posted. Not really fond of snakes so I just got out of the water. I've seen that before too.
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