Onsr Comments

[ness]

Being cynical is easy, though I'm not sure it's realistic. Whether it's Pebble Mine, stream access out west, or gravel mines and chip mills here, activism has had it's successes.

No doubt. I hope I'm wrong.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Activism can be overdone. When a tree falls in a wilderness area no one is likely to hear it, or care.

[ColdWaterFshr]

Activism can be overdone. When a tree falls in a wilderness area no one is likely to hear it, or care.

Brother Wayne. If you got a stance on the ONSR GMP proposals, preach it, if you don't . . . then you're no better than that tree. I prefer my Activism medium-well a whole lot better than room temperature apathy, or undercooked indifference.

[drew03cmc]

Brother Wayne. If you got a stance on the ONSR GMP proposals, preach it, if you don't . . . then you're no better than that tree. I prefer my Activism medium-well a whole lot better than room temperature apathy, or undercooked indifference.

CW, that statement rings true with so many things. Do you mind if I steal that?

[Gavin]

"undercooked indifference"....you been hitting Tito? LMAOF! 9 more weeks till fishing. Lets go.

[awhuber]

This is from the minutes of the Dent Co. comm. from Mon.

We have the best conservation dept in the nation.

 

Dent County Presiding Commissioner Darrell Skiles wanted to salute the Missouri Department of Conservation for the letter they sent to the Ozark National Scenic Riverways by Director Robert Ziehmer. The letter stated that many aspects of the 1984 general management plan had not yet been implemented or enforced by the National Park Service, and the Conservation Department supports the enforcement of the 1984 plan, not the options for the new plan. The Conservation Department also suggests in their letter to organize a working group to develop new management approaches to resolve access and use issues within the Scenic Riverways. The Department of Conservation is also against designation of a wilderness area and any horsepower restrictions within the Scenic Riverways

[Wayne SW/MO]

Brother Wayne. If you got a stance on the ONSR GMP proposals, preach it, if you don't . . . then you're no better than that tree. I prefer my Activism medium-well a whole lot better than room temperature apathy, or undercooked indifference.

That's all well and good brother, but it wouldn't be the first time that the loudest voices turn out to be less than desirable for the average outdoorsman. I'm simply saying that everyone should be sure that the proposal fits all of their desires before they embrace it completely.

So my point is, using wilderness designation as an example, so few people are able to enjoy them that in a crisis they might not get the support they need.

[Wayne SW/MO]

Brother Wayne. If you got a stance on the ONSR GMP proposals, preach it,

Don't mind if I do.

Jet boats=NO! I will concede however that if they only run downstream so that the waves follow the normal flow of the river they should be allowed.

Horses? Apparently their are many on here that know much about horses other then that they, like all animals crap in the woods, or the water if it's handy. I don't understand why that would be a big problem? It's kind of roulette if and when it gets to the water. Now if you stop and consider what happens to a soft river bank during a heavy rain after multiple 1200# critters with big hooves have ravaged the entry and exit and done the heavy work to create new gulleys entering the river carry mud, then it would be horses=NO.

ATV's running across the river, why? I've only seen this once and I have to admit it did save the drivers from walking the 50 yards to the gravel bar on the other side. But, AYV's=NO

I don't have a problem with roads, at least in moderation. I do think they should stop above the flood level, stop with boulders and serious fines for those too lazy to carry a canoe to the water and think that driving around is OK for them. Roads coming close opens the river to more people on foot or willing to haul a craft to the water.

This means a lot more people around to hear the tree and support keeping the river a river and not a highway.