History Of Blue Springs

[Greasy B]

They had time on their side.

[lee G.]

I have seen flint knapers make a arrowhead in just a couple of minutes, I think they could make a arrow in less time than i have spent looking for a lost arrow, and since they didnt have TV or cell phones, they had time on their hands.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Last active means he hasn't signed in. He still could be reading.

Maybe. But I would think that they would have at least clarified themselves by now.

[fishinwrench]

I think he/she is probably comfortable with the clarity.

[fishinwrench]

I have seen flint knapers make a arrowhead in just a couple of minutes, I think they could make a arrow in less time than i have spent looking for a lost arrow, and since they didnt have TV or cell phones, they had time on their hands.

So, all those heads being found are probably not authentic then, cuz we have more flint knapers (with too much time on their hands) than we ever had Indians, and they are skipping across the land sprinkling their replica's everywhere.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I think he/she is probably comfortable with the clarity.

That is what I am thinking. They only came here to tell you to stay away. If that wasn't the case and they were lurking, they would have said something.

So, all those heads being found are probably not authentic then, cuz we have more flint knapers (with too much time on their hands) than we ever had Indians, and they are skipping across the land sprinkling their replica's everywhere.

There are more fakes out there than you think. Not the ones you find but I wouldn't buy one without knowing the source. It doesn't take but a few minutes to turn one out. I can't do it, never tried, but I have seen it done.

[fishinwrench]

Yeah I know a couple that finds them everywhere they go, they really have an eye for it.

I myself have only came across 3 in my life, and one of those was questionable as in it may just be a freak of nature/not shaped by hand.

I know there are people who arrowhead hunt as a hobby and many of them have bushel baskets full of them.

Some are smaller than a dime and I've seen them on display called "bird points". Seriously ? GTFOH!

I feel safe in assuming those were made as tokens or for jewelry.....NOT for shooting birds.

[Al Agnew]

The little ones are the only true arrowheads. Anything over an inch long is either a spear point or some kind of knife blade. I used to hunt them a lot back when there was more row cropping and plowing. Now everything is either in pasture or is no-tilled. And a lot of the real artifact hunters have leased the exclusive rights to good farms so the average joe can't get permission.

I too have often wondered why so many of them are found, but you have to realize that good places to find them had probably been in nearly continuous use for 10,000 years or more. There was a farm field I used to hunt many years ago, down by Cape Girardeau. It was a higher bench in the V where two nice streams ran together, and was a perfect spot for a campsite or village site. I studied the various kinds of artifacts and the time periods in which they were made, and I found points from every time period from the Dalton point era 8000-12,000 years ago up to the era when European settlers were first moving in. I found pieces of hoes, hammerstones, ax heads, drills...and I found a bunch of points from one era that were made from a creamy smooth medium gray flint that was known to have only come from a quarry spot in central Kentucky, and a piece of obsidian that could have only come from somewhere farther away to the West than that, so there was obviously trading going on in the materials to make them.

Still, most of what you find, even the complete, unbroken points, are seldom perfect. I suspect that good flint knappers just threw away the less than perfect points, and that's what you find most often. The most perfect (and oldest) point I ever found was out in the middle of a wet weather creek in sandstone country, nowhere near anywhere they would have lived or camped. It may have been one of the few non-discards I ever found.

[oneshot]

When I was a Kid we could go in Plowed Fields along the Missouri River find Buckets of Arrow Heads. Plus with Metal Detectors find Bullets and such from the Civil War.

oneshot

[woodman]

Nobody I know has ever been approached or ran off from gravel bars between Prosperine and Leadmine but plenty of seemingly intimidating signage on the gravel bars is very common through there and it is obviously directed towards fishermen since all the party floating ends above there.

I still stop at those "posted" places if I want to wade and fish, have lunch, or just stretch my legs, but it does make me nervous so I tend not to linger even though there's times that I'd like to just chill awhile without having to keep looking over my shoulder and worrying about a potential confrontation with some gunslinging Niangua Land & Cattle employee that THINKS he is doing the right thing.

The part that bugs me the worst is that MDC agents know that those ("Private Property-Don't Stop Here") signs are all along there but they choose to just let it slide knowing full well that it is an intimidating infringement to people who are within their rights to be there....and to stop and fish/wade/camp if they darn well please.

But instead of contacting those landowners and "advising them" the agents are just gonna let the situation go uncorrected until somebody has a confrontation with the wrong-somebody-else.

What is it that those people down in that neighborhood are worried about ?

Some fisherman trudging 2-4 miles thru the briars to steal something off their land ? Ya think they might load one of your cows into a canoe or Jon boat and make off with it?

Give me a freakin break !

They bought land along a stretch of navigable public waterway and are attempting to intimidate the public via signage (or "graffiti", depending on how you look at it) on gravel bars that implys that river users have no right to be there.

It's wrong and I cop an attitude every time I see it. Those signs are nothing but obnoxious misplaced litter and I really wish the people who put them there would kindly clean them up.

Couldn't be said better, Make a nice flyer to attach to those signs.....