rFisherk Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Actually, I've thought for some time that the laws and rules governing hunting and fishing have become too complicated. Seems every species in every lake or stream has a different set of rules. Hunting is very much the same way. Maybe this is why in my "golden years," I seen to enjoy the simple and uncomplicated pastimes of hunting squirrels and fishing for bluegill. Reminds me of a time when escaping to the outdoors was escaping the complications and red tape of civilization. Over the decades, various rules have been added gradually and built up to something resembling the tax code. Now, I understand the biological and management reasons for these various rules in various places, but you almost have to be a lawyer to be sure you are legal, unless you fish for the same thing in the same place all the time. I like to do most everything most everywhere, and much of the time I'm a little paranoid about whether I know and am following all the rules. A case in point: I was fishing for crappie on a small lake around here a couple of years ago. We were doing well, and since I was running the trolling motor, I put my friend in charge of stringing the crappie. The agent comes motoring up after an hour or so and checked us, and after some friendly conservation, he asked who caught the crappie. Seems that even though we hadn't yet filled one person's limit, we were breaking the law by using the same stringer for two people. I felt terrible about not knowing this particular statute, or that my name was supposed to be on the stringer as well, and I felt terrible about actually breaking a rule.
fishinwrench Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Why would that be any different than 2 guys using the same livewell or cooler ? It is my understanding that your name needs to be on a stringer only if you leave it unattended, or are out of sight of it. I'm good with the rules. Nit picky agents, and agents that "detain" you longer than necessary kinda rub me the wrong way.
Smallieguy87 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I wonder how often those petty rules and regulations get crossed and confused due to just how many there are. Similar to a lot of the rules in municipalities being crossed with county,state, etc. The incident with the stringer is in my mind a bit ridiculous and it definitely can take away the release of just enjoying the outdoors.
fishinwrench Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I wonder how often those petty rules and regulations get crossed and confused due to just how many there are. Similar to a lot of the rules in municipalities being crossed with county,state, etc. The incident with the stringer is in my mind a bit ridiculous and it definitely can take away the release of just enjoying the outdoors.It's more than just rediculis, because the agent is WRONG. As long as it is legal to "give fish" to another angler then requiring names on stringers within sight of an angler is stupid. You didn't owe him an apology, Ron. He owed you one for bothering you with his ignorance. 50k per year, plus a truck and bottomless fuel card hu? See ? And to think you "felt relieved" that he didn't write you a ticket.
Gavin Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Missouri has some plain and simple rules when compared to some states. Look at fish regs up North or out West. Cinderella fishing hours and temporary stream closures out west. They could be better, but they could be much more complicated.
Members Claybuster Posted February 27, 2015 Members Posted February 27, 2015 Oh lord, don't get me started! I've resorted to hiring a "Fishing Attourney":):) Executive pro staff -- team Little Debbie Executive pro staff -- team quiktrip long johns Executive pro staff -- team I hate minners Executive pro staff -- team moose don't know he's a dog
Members Muddler4 Posted February 27, 2015 Members Posted February 27, 2015 Compared to many states Missouri rules and regs are few and pretty easy to comply with. If it were up to me I can think of a couple more that I'd like to see.
Greasy B Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Compared to many states Missouri rules and regs are few and pretty easy to comply with. If it were up to me I can think of a couple more that I'd like to see. I have fished a dozen or so other states and that has been my experance as well. We also have relatively cheap license fees, His father touches the Claw in spite of Kevin's warnings and breaks two legs just as a thunderstorm tears the house apart. Kevin runs away with the Claw. He becomes captain of the Greasy Bastard, a small ship carrying rubber goods between England and Burma. Michael Palin, Terry Jones, 1974
Justin Spencer Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I agree it can be a bit confusing, but from a biology standpoint we should be thankful they don't paint every river and lake with a broad brush or the fishing wouldn't be as good as it is. Just like it not being legal to fill other people's deer tags you shouldn't be able to fill everyone else's creel either, so I understand the stringer thing, but am glad you got off with a warning. For those whos primary objective is to catch fish the regulations are pretty easy to figure, those that just tote a rod along on a float trip are the ones that are usually really confused by all of the trout areas and bait limitations, especially when they come from states where they don't even fish on rivers (many don't even know trout are in our river). "The problem with a politician’s quote on Facebook is you don’t know whether or not they really said it." –Abraham Lincoln Tales of an Ozark Campground Proprietor Dead Drift Fly Shop
Dutch Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 It's more than just rediculis, because the agent is WRONG. As long as it is legal to "give fish" to another angler then requiring names on stringers within sight of an angler is stupid. You didn't owe him an apology, Ron. He owed you one for bothering you with his ignorance. 50k per year, plus a truck and bottomless fuel card hu? See ? And to think you "felt relieved" that he didn't write you a ticket. wrench you might want to check on the rules for giving fish to another person. There is more to it than just giving fish away.
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