dtrs5kprs Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Sounds like the ned rig down there is like a wacky rig senko up here. When it gets tough you can catch fish. It drives me nuts but you have to when u get blue bird skies and no wind In the summer. It will do that, but it has become much more of an everyday, anytime bait. On the flipping...unless the lake comes up there may not be a lot to flip. Maybe some wood trash in the back ends of places, and docks. Flipping with braid in that trash will make you crazy. Wraps around and cinches tight, especially on cedar wood. Mono or fluoro would be better. Flipping is kind of a situation specific thing. We tend to flip docks with line more in the 8-10# range, maybe 15#. Really, given the time you will be down, a lot of the fish available to be caught will be in 10'-25' with the boat sitting in 30'-35'. Those would be grub, Ned, shakey head, split shot, stickbait fish. Might be a little shallower bite if it warms up and stays that way.
Members kazoobass Posted March 20, 2015 Author Members Posted March 20, 2015 thank you. I have the shaky head covered. I have not fished a wiggle wart since college fishing for steelhead. I grew up fishing lake Michigan so the big water part doesn't bother me. I respect the hell out of big water. I got my first boat on lake Michigan at age 14 and for the next 10 years did very well with silver fish. Marriage, being a head football coach, kids, etc... got in the way and fishing was put on the back burner. I gave up coaching just over a year ago because my 13 year old is a pretty good 3 sport athlete. I only have one boy and don't want to miss a thing. I got a boat and started bass fishing so he could do it with me and my obsessive behavior came back. I only know one speed and that is full blast...lol can't wait. I might have to make a trip to Indiana if the ice is gone before I head to Table Rock. Hopefully this summer Michigan gets rid of the closed season and I can fish as soon as ice out.
Members kazoobass Posted March 20, 2015 Author Members Posted March 20, 2015 Up here most guys use 50 lb braid on all baitcasters and use floru leader. I flip with the 50 but throw florucarbon when cranking Etc. I use a mix of braid and florucarbon on spinning reels but will have florucarbon on all my spinning reels for this trip. What type of pole do u throw the need rig on? Shorter rod or more of a shaky head rig?
rps Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Up here most guys use 50 lb braid on all baitcasters and use floru leader. I flip with the 50 but throw florucarbon when cranking Etc. I use a mix of braid and florucarbon on spinning reels but will have florucarbon on all my spinning reels for this trip. What type of pole do u throw the need rig on? Shorter rod or more of a shaky head rig? If you plan to fish the Ned, gear makes a difference. The good heads are 1/16 and 1/8 ounce. Use the 1/8 ounce only if you are fishing more than 20' deep or the wind is in the teens or higher. Even with a half Zinker, that means you are throwing a 1/4 ounce bait. Most people use spinning gear with 4 or 6 pund mono or flouro to do that. I am a hard head and built a baitcaster rod to accomplish that. If you are interested, follow these links.
willyfish Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Is it safe to say Kazoo is a little fired up about going fishing.
dtrs5kprs Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 Up here most guys use 50 lb braid on all baitcasters and use floru leader. I flip with the 50 but throw florucarbon when cranking Etc. I use a mix of braid and florucarbon on spinning reels but will have florucarbon on all my spinning reels for this trip. What type of pole do u throw the need rig on? Shorter rod or more of a shaky head rig? You probably have a 6'6"-7' drop shot, or other ML spinning rod that will work fine for the little guy. I run it on straight 6# Invizx, others like braid/nanofil and a leader, and our fearless leader is throwing it on maxima mono. A shakey head rod is usually too stiff. You will end up moving it too much, and pulling it away from them. Braid is the beast for flipping grass. Not so much for wood. I figured that out back in '94 when I tried to flip at Truman with braid. The little "dangle-loop around: that you use to get a bait off a branch with mono or fluoro cinches down with braid. That braid cuts into the wood and your bait will just hang there and laugh at you. Regardless of what you throw, if the wind isn't howling, the number one adjustment on a White River lake is slowing down. Way down. I lost my summer and fall to youth football last year. It was a great time (mostly), but folks have no idea how much work coaches put in, even at that minor level. We are getting ready to put next year's team together. Amazing how early it starts, or more accurately that it never ends.
rps Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 I lost my summer and fall to youth football last year. It was a great time (mostly), but folks have no idea how much work coaches put in, even at that minor level. We are getting ready to put next year's team together. Amazing how early it starts, or more accurately that it never ends. After I finally stopped playing rugby, I coached the men's club in Tulsa - two stints. After that I started a high school club and coached it in two stints. Only those who have coached know the time involved.
Members kazoobass Posted March 21, 2015 Author Members Posted March 21, 2015 Is it safe to say Kazoo is a little fired up about going fishing. just a little bit. I fished last season with bare bones equipment. After this winter I think I own everything tackle warehouse sells in doubles or triples... just a little bit antsy...
Members kazoobass Posted March 21, 2015 Author Members Posted March 21, 2015 After I finally stopped playing rugby, I coached the men's club in Tulsa - two stints. After that I started a high school club and coached it in two stints. Only those who have coached know the time involved. I played division Ia college football and lettered 4 years which destroyed my body and then went into coaching for almost 20 years and I am only 42. I am surprised I am still married and able to walk. Not necessarily in that order... rps 1
rps Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 I played division Ia college football and lettered 4 years which destroyed my body and then went into coaching for almost 20 years and I am only 42. I am surprised I am still married and able to walk. Not necessarily in that order... Yes. You know. I went to the regionals (think final 64) with both the men and the high school. My hannds, nose, knee, and shoulder know your situation. Fishing is an excellent later in life substitute.
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