Aunts Creek

[Codywskeeter1521]

http://www.ozarkswaterwatch.org/documents/2014TABLEROCKLAKEANNUALREPORT.pdf I don't know if this is posted already somewhere or not, but just the reading entertainment of those interested here is a link to the MDC 2014 Annual Report for Table Rock.

Very good read thanks for sharing.

Let's all just keep our 6 keepers every trip out for a year. Then see what those numbers look like per hour after time.

[MOPanfisher]

Hmm with the "whats cooking" thread at 27 pages, it ain't even close yet. Maybe in the TR thread only.

[Seth]

I tried bringing up antler restrictions. That's usually good for 10-12 pages on the Missouri Whitetail forum.

[Iclass]

Very good read thanks for sharing.

Let's all just keep our 6 keepers every trip out for a year. Then see what those numbers look like per hour after time.

They take into account how many people keep fish when setting creel limits.

Just to satisfy my simple way of thinking I did some math, which I'm horrible at! I'm only assuming the survival of the babies.

If you have 100 female deer that have 3 fawns each(about the max)and they all survive to maturity...that's 300 right?

If there are 100 female fish that have the minimum of 2000 fry and only 1% survive to mature...that's 2000 right?

That's more than 6 times more bass at minimum eggs and 99% mortality.

Those are the numbers I based my opinion on...and those figures could be very wrong

[Codywskeeter1521]

They take into account how many people keep fish when setting creel limits.

Just to satisfy my simple way of thinking I did some math, which I'm horrible at! I'm only assuming the survival of the babies.

If you have 100 female deer that have 3 fawns each(about the max)and they all survive to maturity...that's 300 right?

If there are 100 female fish that have the minimum of 2000 fry and only 1% survive to mature...that's 2000 right?

That's more than 6 times more bass at minimum eggs and 99% mortality.

Those are the numbers I based my opinion on...and those figures could be very wrong

Your right the only thing I see missing is it takes 4 years to have a keeper bass.

So I'm also bad at math. But if you have 300 fawns and in 4 years that would be 1200 deer. Where you would have 2000 keepers right? So that's pretty close.

Another thing I wanted to figure out.

There was 256697 deer killed total though out deer season last year. But if you take for example 100 people fish table rock a day for a whole year and keep there 6 keepers they would of removed 219,000 keeper bass. Where it takes 4 years to grow those keepers those deer that are born last year will have a chance in beenin killed this year . So there's all kinds of ways to look at it. You really can't compare the two.

[Iclass]

Your right the only thing I see missing is it takes 4 years to have a keeper bass.

So I'm also bad at math. But if you have 300 fawns and in 4 years that would be 1200 deer. Where you would have 2000 keepers right? So that's pretty close.

Another thing I wanted to figure out.

There was 256697 deer killed total though out deer season last year. But if you take for example 100 people fish table rock a day for a whole year and keep there 6 keepers they would of removed 219,000 keeper bass. Where it takes 4 years to grow those keepers those deer that are born last year will have a chance in beenin killed this year . So there's all kinds of ways to look at it. You really can't compare the two.

There would be 1200 deer IF they ALL survived...so while the deer are still reproducing in that 4 years the bass don't? The 1200 figure for deer would now be compared to 8000 bass

I would venture a guess that there are way more than 250,000 keeper bass taken from TR every year.

There are many ways to look at it and yes the two can be compared. If I remember correctly, you are the one who brought up the comparison earlier today...

[Codywskeeter1521]

There would be 1200 deer IF they ALL survived...so while the deer are still reproducing in that 4 years the bass don't? The 1200 figure for deer would now be compared to 8000 bass

I would venture a guess that there are way more than 250,000 keeper bass taken from TR every year.

There are many ways to look at it and yes the two can be compared. If I remember correctly, you are the one who brought up the comparison earlier today...

I'm going to venture to say that there are more deer in the state of mo then there are keeper bass in table rock. Fry is the lowest thing on the food chain where a new born deer yes has to defend him or herself there survival rate is greater. Yes fish produce more eggs but deer season isn't all year like you stated before about table rock and keeping 6 keepers all year. You looking thought a small glass I'm talking the whole state of mo deer population.

Yes but where you might have 8000 fry fish you will still only have so many keeper bass after those 4 years.

I can do this all day. The reason I stated you can't compare the two to be honest is because I'm about over this conversation.

People will keep whatever they want off any lake in the state and continue to kill whatever makes them happy and I will continue to c and r and manage my deer herd the way I want too. I'm also going to venture to say that my way of doing things will turn out better for myself and then the others. The proof is on my profile picture.there again I'm sure we will not agree.

[Iclass]

If you really believe that bass fry is the lowest thing on the food chain, how may I ask do you think they grow? The 8000 bass would be the 1% survivors. No doubt the deer have a greater chance for survival.

One final question...do you purchase a license or tags to kill your deer?

[Codywskeeter1521]

If you really believe that bass fry is the lowest thing on the food chain, how may I ask do you think they grow? The 8000 bass would be the 1% survivors.

No doubt the deer have a greater chance for survival.

One final question...do you purchase a license or tags to kill your deer?

Why yes I purchase several deer tags 3 for my bow (including a doe tag) and 2 for my rifle (including my doe tag) and a fishing license trout stamp. Great question.

[MOPanfisher]

Just because I am bored and soaking upthe heating pad. If Table Rock has 45 thousand acres and missouri has a deer herd of one million, that would equate to 22 keeper bass per acre, seems doable. Of course do you compare the number of deer in mid summer or after rifle season to the number of keeper bass in march or the number left at the end when apparently every fisherman has kept his limit every day, but then you have to account for those fish that attained 15 inches during the year, so figuring in a floating constant of "i", and a standard deviation of.0.16 then the ultimate answer is 42. If you have kids who have made you sit through the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy while your brain shrinks you will understand that reference.