New State Park?

[Gavin]

ONSR is a different model than Wild & Scenic Riverways. Thank the memory of Leo Drey for putting the 11pt under Wild & Scenic v the National Park mass recreation model.

[Mark]

I also wondered what was the difference between the two. I guess the whole issue could be resolved for me if electric could be restored at Greer CG, but thieves and vandals put an end to that. What a shame! My interest all along has been someplace for RV hookups. I have older retired siblings with RVs who like places like Greer CG, but electric is a must. They are not into roughing it and want to be right on the water to get their feet wet during the day. Plus I am in the market for a small travel trailer and would love to park it on the Eleven Point for a few days. Dang hoodlums always have to ruin things!!

[Gavin]

Mark, I have a trailer too. New full hookup sites were planned for Montauk. Haven't been down there since last Thanksgiving to check on progress.

[Mark]

Sorry Gavin, not into "Six Flags of Trout Fishing" experience. Don't get the excitement of trout parks where they dump fish in daily by the barrels and then people stand shoulder to shoulder trying to get pellet fed fish to bite at anything that looks edible. Went one time, that was enough when someone cast right over my line like I wasn't even there. No thanks. Sorry for the rant, Gavin. Leave the trout parks to the city slickers!!!

[Gavin]

I camp at Montauk a couple times a year with the family but I cant remember the last time I've fished IN the park..Plenty of good water below the park if you want to base camp and day float or wade.

 

 

[steve l]

Let's keep the thread moving.  Does this ranch own the land at the s-turn below 160?  If that vague description makes sense...

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ranch-where-beatles-stayed-could-become-a-missouri-state-park/article_89bcb778-e834-5131-89bb-733abf9cfefc.html

 

[Brian Sloss]

It is about 2 miles south of 160.  Big stone lodge on the left with the Buildings fro Babies (B4B) sign at the gate.  With the land from the Frederick Creek ranch, it will extend a few miles down Y hwy to just down from Frederick Creek.  Not sure if there is any property between the B4B and Frederick Creek ranch.

[Mac's Orphan]

Well - I don't live in MO, so don't really have a horse in this race but...

My son and I stay at Richards when we fish the 11PT. We love the fact that the river is not commercialized like the AR tailwaters have become. Plus, not crowded at all in the fall. If you haven't been to the Little Red in a few years, you can't go 200yds with out a dang boat dock staring you in the face. I will never go back to that river - ever!

I like the convenience of my travel trailer, but would rather drive a few miles to fish and camp a secluded place like the 11PT than see it go the way of the Norfork tailwtater.

Just my $0.02...

[Mark]

Am I intrepreting the Post Dispatch article correclty? Would the Frederick Creek Ranch and the Building for Babies land combined be in the 5000 acres neighborhood? Somebody in one of the controlling agencies is pushing this hard.

[Brian Sloss]

They would and no one has any idea what the plans are.  They said maybe 10 primitive campsites when it was just Frederick, but now that B4B is in the mix, I can't imagine having that beautiful stone lodge the Beatles stayed in and them not renting rooms out.  This seems to be becoming a bigger development.